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http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cwg/1852483558.html

here is another!

Private spacecraft company seeks entry-level crew member (Mesa Flats, CA)

Date: 2010-07-19, 8:52PM PDT
Reply to: gigs-cgqag-1852483558@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

Venture-funded spacecraft transport company assembling launch crew for suborbital test flights.

This is a long-term position with the opportunity for quick advancement.

Primary responsibilities are:

Load and unload cargo in suborbital and orbital conditions.
Conduct quality control and assurance checkpoints.
Organize and adhere to rigid but variable schedules.
Operate forklift and lift up to 80 pounds.
Operate computing systems.
Other tasks that may vary between missions.


Requirements:

Desire to contribute to the advancement of humanity.
Prior computing experience.
Able to swim and hold breath for 60 seconds (will be tested during interview process).
Ability to pass background check and drug test.
Experience with blow-torch and/or arc welder (willing to train).
Physically fit - weighing between 100 and 250 pounds (fitness will be tested during interview process).
Conversational in Spanish.
Astronaut experience preferred, but willing to train the right candidate.

$18/hr, 20-60 hrs per week depending on launch conditions (overtime avl).

To apply, please respond via the email above with a resume, picture, and answers to the below:

1. What is your interest in space?

2. What are your career goals?

3. Please describe your level of fitness.

4. Are you willing to relocate?

We are an equal opportunity employer.

Please see below for description of astronaut career path:

Lots of kids dream of being an astronaut but may not realize how intense the program is or what the actual responsibilities are. An astronaut boards a spacecraft to fly on missions for very specific purposes. Astronauts work as part of a crew and therefore have specific responsibilities aboard the spacecraft.

Astronauts go through very specialized and intense training to prepare for these space missions. They must pass certain physical requirements as well as comprehensive academic and mental exams. Astronauts fly to various destinations to conduct research and experiments. These missions may vary and therefore the actual focus and responsibilities of the astronaut will change with each mission.

There are various roles that an astronaut may serve as as a part of the spacecraft’s crew, ranging from a mission specialist to a commander. The more experience and background that an astronaut has, the more responsibilities that astronaut may have. Not only are astronauts responsible for fulfilling the terms, or purpose, of their mission, but they are also responsible for ensuring safety of the spacecraft and the crew. They help each member of their crew to maintain normal functions and to stay safe to work through the missions. Astronauts often will observe the environment they fly to, taking something from there or bringing something back there.

Astronauts must go through training for each mission that they serve on. They must ensure that they maintain appropriate physical shape, as that comes into play for successfully flying on the spacecraft and carrying out the missions.

Training/Educational Requirements

Though the requested educational requirement for an astronaut is a bachelor’s degree, it is not generally necessary.

The training program is the most intense part of the requirement for astronauts. Astronauts must be in excellent physical shape, and this may be a focus of their training program. They must pass physical exams to be selected for a mission. Astronauts must follow a very stringent training program as set forth by NASA that involves comprehension exams, physical exams, and tests knowledge and abilities in a variety of different areas. Passing these exams and the overall training program is an extremely important measure to meet. Astronauts will be trained in simulation exercises so that they can get the feel of being in space, and so that they are prepared for the work that lies ahead of them. Initial and ongoing training is an extremely important part of the job as an astronaut.

How to Get Hired

The best way to get hired initially is to show great promise in a related field. The educational requirement is part of the equation, as is working in the field. It can help to work previously in a field such as engineering or piloting, if one wants to become a mission specialist. To be hired as an astronaut pilot or mission commander, actual flying experience and a solid background in a related field will become an important consideration. As an astronaut gains more experience, she or he may move on to different roles with increased responsibility.

Job Prospects, Employment Outlook, and Career Development

Though it is a rather competitive field, there is always a need for astronauts. Once in the field, there is great chance of career advancement and stability. Once astronauts are selected to work as part of a crew, that experience becomes quite valuable in getting hired and selected for further missions.

Working Environment

The working environment for an astronaut is unlike any other profession. Though astronauts may spend a majority of their time in classrooms, simulation environments, or gyms to improve upon their physical requirements, astronauts also spend part of their time in actual spacecrafts. It’s important to remember that the time spent on missions is minimal compared to the actual preparation, but all of the work that astronauts put in is fundamental to that time spent on missions.

Astronauts may work long hours, particularly when they are on missions—up to 100 hours a week in some instances. Astronauts must be able to stay calm in what can prove to be stressful environments. They must be focused on safety and on ensuring that they are physically and mentally prepared for their missions.

Salary and Benefits

Though the average salary for an astronaut is around $55,000, this can be a bit deceptive as salaries actually fall into rather wide range. Astronauts can work in a variety of different positions and therefore the salary can be anywhere from $27,000 for those just starting out to over $80,000 for those with great experience and responsibilities. Astronauts receive excellent benefits, including medical coverage, paid vacation, tuition reimbursement, pension savings account, and potentially even more.

Read more: Astronaut Job Description, Career as a Astronaut, Salary, Employment - Definition and Nature of the Work, Education and Training Requirements, Getting the Job http://careers.stateuniversity.com/pages/7831/Astronaut.html#ixzz0uBWuQSOK



  • Location: Mesa Flats, CA
  • it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
  • Compensation: no pay





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Man, if only I had a desire to contribute to the advancement of humanity, I'd be all over that...

'...astronaut experience preferred...' for $18/hour. Ha!

And the plural of spacecraft is...'spacecraft.'
 
"We are looking for a Cinematographer ( ideally one with a teleprompter ) that can work with us for a week or two weeks... The job is shooting around 50 product videos for a popular online Camera store. You will be shooting videos of actors talking about Cameras. Obviously the cheaper your day rate is the better - since this is a low budget production. If you have your own light kit that is also a plus. We will be conducting interviews on Tuesday of this week.

it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Compensation: no pay"

ohh this is a good one.... LOL " Obviously the cheaper your day rate the better...." WOw.....
 
In STL everybody (but the REAL pros) wants everything for free. The funny thing is (as I'm sure you guys know) the "real" jobs actually pay decently... and of course the results are always great, or at least what the producers expected.

I'd like to do a blog... or maybe web-series... based on indi-production... because "the juice"... i.e. "street cred"... at THAT level... is based entirely on a facade of success, based on a string of other projects that didn't pay anything... and didn't turn out well... but are still riding on a decent [local] reputation that's been created, and sustained, by all the people who are too worried to ever tell it like it is... for fear they won't be asked to work on other zero-pay gigs that pop up.

Something like "The League" for an indi-production circle... is a great concept for a TV or web-series.
 
The first half of your post is so very true Matt. What you say about the facade of success is so painfully true. Your webshow idea may come off a little too smug though, but I'm sure the material would be there.
 
Edited the second half of my post because yes, you're right. I came back here to edit it anyway, because I made reference to a local project that involved some people I have since come to like... and would work with again. I'm not really the "smug" type if you get to know me.

I'm not saying I'm above working on projects for, or with, friends... or that I'm above trying to do things on a low budget :)

I'm saying that based on some of these posts... like a guy expects to do a $50K project for $1K or even FREE... with people he/she doesn't know... just so they can have the satisfaction of saying they did it... is SUPER-common. I think somebody (not necessarily me, but somebody) could easily make an interesting show about how those shoots almost always go. I'm talking about shoots where somebody has a script (if you're lucky)... or just an idea... and expects a giant production to form around that idea... where they have ZERO gear, and expect the entire burden of the project to fall on everyone else.

I met a guy years ago... like 12 years ago or more... who had worked for Channel 11 in STL... he wanted to do a film and he sounded totally legit in a few conversations... then when I met him... along with some other guys he had show up (all to show at the same time, to give the impression there was demand to be on his project)... we met at a Subway... one of several he said he owned... only to find out that there was no money, no gear outside of what we could bring... and his son (and his son's acting friends) were to be the "stars" of this project. What made me remember this story is the word "smug"... because the kid appeared pretty smug... with a grin on his face the whole time as I listened to his dad explain that "gear is nothing... I don't even own a camera because gear is nothing... the script is all that matters"... as we're all sitting there enjoying our 1/2 cold-cut combo's.

So yeah... I think there's potential there... and BTW... I didn't do the gig, but would have now, under the conditions that I "owned" my own BTS footage. That's my point. If anybody wants to be involved in something like this, where you know there's nothing really in it for you outside of the experience... consider doing a contract for THEM to sign, that allows you go have and use your own footage however you like. There's no reason to go into a production with total strangers with no chance of any reciprocation or value in it beyond a credit on a project that may not even get done.
 
Ha. The only thing that would be smug is if you brought yourself into such a series. Such as a round table discussion of working people who laugh at indie filmmakers. But if you just stuck to the subject and let it tell itself it could definitely be done. There are a LOT of people in my hometown like this. Exactly as you describe. There is this strange subculture to it isn’t there? The whole no-pay, coupled with the belief that their effort is one step from Sundance or LionsGate, etc.

I know a local guy, works at a job but shoots a lot of events too. I agree with him when he says people need to start forming filmmaking collectives, or clubs. Groups of people who get together to just shoot to shoot. Not a production company or pretend one. Drop the facade that you're going to make money at filmmaking, because you're not. Drop the facade that you're going to pay people on deferment, because you're not. Drop the facade that you're going to win any serious festivals or get picked up by a distributor, because you're not. Instead, just get together to shoot personal projects. To shoot what you like for the sake of shooting. To learn, grow, have fun. And isn't that half of what making movies is about?

If someone wants to start a production company beyond that, of course that's fine.
 
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"Who's up for a challenge?
I've got five days and 9k to make a full length feature film.
I've got fully rehearsed actors and I'm ready to go.
I've got a location.
I've got a director.
What I don't have is a crew to shoot the movie.
Looking for;
1.)Production Manager
2.)DP (with own gear)
3.)Sound (with own gear to include laverliers & mixing board)
4.)Grip / Electric
5.)Set Director / Art Director
6.)Wardrobe
7.)Hair & Make Up
8.)Script Supervisor
9.)Catering Services"



:)
 
Of course we all laugh at how absurd this is, but there is a certain inescapable logic to it. I mean, think about it. Let's say a kid wrote a script. There's no way he's getting financing. There is no way he can afford to pay people. So what are his choices? Choice A: don't make the project. Choice B: make outrageous requests like the ones we laugh about. End result of choice A: project does not get made - i.e., there is 0% chance of it ever existing. End result of choice B: project has >0% chance of existing, even if it's only 1%. Now tell me, which choice is better, A or B? In case of A, nobody will laugh at you on the internet, or in your face - but guess what, you've accomplished nothing, yeah, they can at least put on your grave: "Nobody laughed at me". In case B, who knows, a 1000 people will laugh and point fingers, but a few may get tempted, and at least he's made his project however good/bad it was. Is it better to have nothing? Of course people will say, wait, go look for money, make friends, earn money blah, blah, blah - but that can take years and years. Meanwhile the kid who did his crappy project, maybe grows and maybe learns through experience, and yeah, his pride is hurt, but perhaps down the road he can one day get financing. While the guy whose pride is intact has done nothing - or is still waiting trying to get financing. You think this is unrealistic? But this is real life - I know, because I've seen it. I have a friend who has a script out, that got good coverage, but nobody is - so far - willing to give him $5 mil to finance it; he's got various people/companies "maybe" interested, but it always falls through. It's been 6 years. I've told him at the beginning of this process "you can spend the next X years flogging your project everywhere you can, or you can DIY for no money with uncertain outcome". He certainly is a guy who never put an ad on craigslist that people laughed about. But he still has not made a movie. Then there is my situation. I'm also not going to put an ad on craigslist - but I'm not going to wait either. I'm not going to ask people to work for free. Instead I finance it from my own pocket and unfortunately I'm not rich, so instead my approach is going to be to do 5 jobs at once, however unqualified I may be... I'm not a DP, or a cam operator, but guess what, that's what I'll do on my project... would I have preferred to concentrate on just directing - yes, of course, but that's not a choice I have, since I simply don't have the $ to pay a pro DP. And I have enough respect for pros to understand that that's how they make a living - so I'm not going to ask them to do anything for free. The results will suffer, but I've taken that into account in how I structured my project. But the bottom line is, that next year I'm shooting my project, while my friend will still be looking for money in his year 7. So, you know what? I don't laugh at those kids on craigslist. Not how I'd do it, but I'm old enough to understand that life is complicated and it's easy to laugh, but perhaps that laughter can sometimes be pretty hollow.
 
it's all about realistic expectations, and not understanding how the world works. This project could be done (minus af ull feature in 5 days) but the scale he wants to do it, and trying to "hire" people is absurd. If he really wanted to get this done for 9k, he'd have to shoot this over several months, on lots of friend favors, and volunteer work. cheap,fast, good, pick any of the 2 right? it's the point of the never ending, wanting everything and trying to do as little as possible to get it. If these were my options right here, I'd block out a 2-3 month schedule, shooting weekends only, and calling in all the favors and friends I could get on it. but to say he wants all this crew, all this equipment, and cramming a feature script into 5 days, IS absurd. he'll be running this crew 18-20 hours a day, for 50 dollars a day, with pizza lunches no breakfast or dinner, and wondering why they didn't get all the footage they needed.

these are cold hard truths that people need a wake up call to.
 
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