Countryman EMW with Senn G3?

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custerc

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Has anyone shot with this? I've had the countryman wired lav for a while now, and I absolutely love it, amazing sound for a crazy low price. The Sennheiser g3 set we just got, but I have to say, I kind of hate the lav it comes with. It'll do in a pinch, but it's HUGE, sticks out like a sore thumb, and moreover, it seems to pick up a lot of motion noise from the cable. The EMW doesn't seem to do that (I had someone clip it to their belt and walk around tethered to a 20 ft XLR cable to test).

So I'm wondering about picking up another EMW to go with the G3 wireless set. But I know sometimes mics sound different...has anyone worked with this combination? Does it sound as good as the EMW wired lav (assuming there's no signal interference, obv)....?
 
I use a EMW with a G2 and it is much better than the ME2 stock lav. This is probably the least expensive significant upgrade mic.

Grant
 
You really can't go wrong with the G3 + any Countryman, honestly. The stock lav is passable in some situations (and it actually sounds better on my boss than my Countryman B6 does), but the EMW is a huge step forward. You'll have to get it re-terminated for the transmitter pack, though.
 
I use an EMW with the G2. I like it. FYI, I special ordered it (I think from Northern Sound? a couple of yrs ago) and got it with the G2 connector AND I got an adapter that I can use to convert that to an XLR connection so that I can use it as a hard wired mic. Worth the money.
 
C2V said:
You'll have to get it re-terminated for the transmitter pack, though.
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What does that mean? I was thinking of buying a new EMW that's made for the Sennheiser wireless packs, but is there a way to convert my existing wired EMW? That would be cheaper, presumably...
 
custerc said:
What does that mean? I was thinking of buying a new EMW that's made for the Sennheiser wireless packs, but is there a way to convert my existing wired EMW? That would be cheaper, presumably...
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It's fairly simple to re-terminate a mic. Contact the company that sold you the mic, or if they don't have a service department you can get an RA from Countryman and have them do it. Call them... they'll tell you about how much it will cost.

Sorry... I missed the part in your first post about purchasing a new one. Yeah, it'll be less expensive to re-terminate. Honestly, though, if you have budgeted for a new lav go ahead and get one. Always nice to have a second, and having a hard-wired option isn't a bad idea.
 
custerc said:
Has anyone shot with this? I've had the countryman wired lav for a while now, and I absolutely love it, amazing sound for a crazy low price. The Sennheiser g3 set we just got, but I have to say, I kind of hate the lav it comes with. It'll do in a pinch, but it's HUGE, sticks out like a sore thumb, and moreover, it seems to pick up a lot of motion noise from the cable.
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Cable noise is because you have not addressed the cable properly. You need to loop the cable and trap it behind the clip; this decouples the mic. from the cable and prevents rubbing noises - putting a loose knot in the cable also helps.

But I agree that the supplied mic. is only so-so. It keeps the price of the kit down. Personally I would swap it for the MKE 2-ew, but the Countryman is also OK.



custerc said:
The EMW doesn't seem to do that (I had someone clip it to their belt and walk around tethered to a 20 ft XLR cable to test).
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But it's still best to do the loop as I described above - whatever the mic. - it's the professional way of putting a tie mic. on someone. Also keep the cable underneath the shirt if you can.
 
John Willett said:
Cable noise is because you have not addressed the cable properly. You need to loop the cable and trap it behind the clip; this decouples the mic. from the cable and prevents rubbing noises - putting a loose knot in the cable also helps.

But I agree that the supplied mic. is only so-so. It keeps the price of the kit down. Personally I would swap it for the MKE 2-ew, but the Countryman is also OK.

But it's still best to do the loop as I described above - whatever the mic. - it's the professional way of putting a tie mic. on someone. Also keep the cable underneath the shirt if you can.
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That is how we mounted the Senn mic. In fact, I even used the EMW's mic clip for it, because the supplied mic clip sucks. We placed it exactly the same way we placed the EMW, but there was considerably more cable noise with the sennheiser mic.
 
C2V said:
It's fairly simple to re-terminate a mic. Contact the company that sold you the mic, or if they don't have a service department you can get an RA from Countryman and have them do it. Call them... they'll tell you about how much it will cost.

Sorry... I missed the part in your first post about purchasing a new one. Yeah, it'll be less expensive to re-terminate. Honestly, though, if you have budgeted for a new lav go ahead and get one. Always nice to have a second, and having a hard-wired option isn't a bad idea.
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Yeah, the countryman lavs are cheap enough that I will probably just get a new one anyway. We shoot primarily in China, where wireless isn't always reliable, so it will be good to have the wired backup.
 
When I looked at the cost of the "problem solver" to get from the Senn plug to XLR, for $60 more, I purchased a XLR version.

Grant
 
custerc said:
That is how we mounted the Senn mic. In fact, I even used the EMW's mic clip for it, because the supplied mic clip sucks. We placed it exactly the same way we placed the EMW, but there was considerably more cable noise with the sennheiser mic.
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Interesting - because I have never had cable noise with a properly attached Sennheiser tie mic. - even the MKE 2 which had steel cable.
 
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