Corrado Part II
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Zak Forsman
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here's a list of about 20 theaters that do a 50/50 split of the gross ticket sales. you can often negotiate better terms and put the advertising responsibility on them too. i have.
http://www.10mph.com/diy/theatrical.html
http://www.10mph.com/diy/theatrical.html
Landmark is ok but I wouldn't waste my time trying to get people to go to a theater they woudn't normally go to to see a blockbuster film at.
Most of those theaters are not places you'd want your movie to be seen at and it would be financial suicide spending money to get people there.
RE: your list of 20 theaters
Zak Forsman
Major Contributor
haha! okay, chip. i think you're wrong, frankly. most of these are proven theaters.
and a film like Adam's can't compete with Twister 2 anyway. He'll need to find a different way to compel an audience to see his film. the names aren't going to be enough. studio pictures with name actors open to empty theaters too. an audience needs a reason, whether that be word of mouth and everyone they know is seeing it too, or because it's an "event" and the filmmakers or hell, tom sizemore, is going to be there for a Q&A.
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Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
Adam, all this theatrical info is great to hear about... nice insights.
filmman
Veteran
That's an incredible article, Zak -- very useful to know. It's easy to forget how much work it can be.
I think four-walling in one or two theaters where the filmmaker pays for the theater and sells his own tickets is still a viable way to go. If nothing else, it's a test market.
I don't understand why paying the theater owner 50% makes more sense than four-walling, but I could be wrong.... Perhaps, there is a hidden reason why the theater owner will get you more money, I don't know.
I'm a little anxious for Corrado -- as though I were one of the investors. LOL
I think that sometimes some subtle opportunities are lost when dilly-dallying with how to maximize profits. I'm not saying you're dilly-dallying, Adam This is about other filmmakers in general...
A movie is an organic product; it differs from movie to movie, but the right distributor can sell a few million in a couple of years and do a better job sometimes than a filmmaker can, even when there is P&A money available.
Who is the right distributor? Sometimes it's the first one who shows interest.
But I have a feeling that, Adam, you're on top of things, because you're living this experience everyday....
Wishing you continued luck.
I think four-walling in one or two theaters where the filmmaker pays for the theater and sells his own tickets is still a viable way to go. If nothing else, it's a test market.
I don't understand why paying the theater owner 50% makes more sense than four-walling, but I could be wrong.... Perhaps, there is a hidden reason why the theater owner will get you more money, I don't know.
I'm a little anxious for Corrado -- as though I were one of the investors. LOL
I think that sometimes some subtle opportunities are lost when dilly-dallying with how to maximize profits. I'm not saying you're dilly-dallying, Adam
This is about other filmmakers in general...A movie is an organic product; it differs from movie to movie, but the right distributor can sell a few million in a couple of years and do a better job sometimes than a filmmaker can, even when there is P&A money available.
Who is the right distributor? Sometimes it's the first one who shows interest.
But I have a feeling that, Adam, you're on top of things, because you're living this experience everyday....
Wishing you continued luck.
taormina
Hates to Rent
So I think I've more or less burned through this theatrical thing. After turning down the last company, and after speaking with numerous producers whom I know and some who have been introduced to me (props to Chip), it doesn't seem like that great of an idea.
Certainly from an ego standpoint it rules; there are numerous benefits to me personally if the film was to get into theaters, but with a 65K p&a budget I really wonder how much positive impact on the DVD sales I could generate.
So now I continue the process of vetting out these sales agents, and I think I've got a couple of great choices to get this thing sold and start recouping the $$.
Actually selling the film took a back seat to theatrical for the past three weeks, many of you know there is a pre-ordained sequence that MUST be followed when selling a film. Skipping one of these segments will kill your sales prospects in another area.
Example: Going right to Basic Cable kills DVD, VOD, etc.
So now that theatrical is more or less off the table, I can concentrate fully on a DVD sale.
Another impetus for moving forward has gotten a hold of me, and I can only partially speak of it. The gist of it is that when Corrado has a deal, I will get the funds for my next film, and that has really impacted my decision process. I feel like I need to get moving and get on this next film.
Corrado will have achieved my goal for it. Direct to DVD distribution.
Other side note: Hangar 14 has been shelved indefinitely. This may comes as a shock to some of you, especially ones that wanted to work or help out on the film. Anyone reading this who was going to help with Hangar 14 - you've been assigned to RLBL now!
I canceled it because I don't feel that now is the time for me to make an epic action film with tons of guns and explosions. Don't get me wrong, that story had a great hook and would've been a hardcore action flick, but I've come up with something........better.
The next film will only be known by the acronym of RLBL for now. It is a serious movie about a serious topic. It's intended to be shown in theaters. It cannot be done for a budget less than $5M no matter how many hats I wear or creative we are. It's epic, simply put.
This is new territory for me. In less than three days, I've written 36 pages of script. It's quite simply the best work I've ever done as a writer. It makes Corrado look like cardboard. I love the story and have never been so fully engaged in writing as I am now. It's something I believe in.
And going against my own commandments to you all, I'm making my number two film one that I hope will win acclaim and awards. It's not as commercial as Corrado was, it has a waaay deeper story, but it's still fairly commercial.
Goals for RLBL:
- Cast with A listers.
- Shot on film. Won't even discuss HD for this, it's too epic.
- Theatrical release
- Win an award. Not some film festival award, not some online award. I'm talking golden globe or Oscar.
Yeah, the last one is a tall order. Laugh it up if you will but that's my goal. Let's see if I can achieve it, or even come close.
So that's where I'm at with the film thing. Sell Corrado, move on to RLBL.
***********Hint: RLBL is about TEOTWAWKI. That really is all I am going to say, save the PMs.********
Certainly from an ego standpoint it rules; there are numerous benefits to me personally if the film was to get into theaters, but with a 65K p&a budget I really wonder how much positive impact on the DVD sales I could generate.
So now I continue the process of vetting out these sales agents, and I think I've got a couple of great choices to get this thing sold and start recouping the $$.
Actually selling the film took a back seat to theatrical for the past three weeks, many of you know there is a pre-ordained sequence that MUST be followed when selling a film. Skipping one of these segments will kill your sales prospects in another area.
Example: Going right to Basic Cable kills DVD, VOD, etc.
So now that theatrical is more or less off the table, I can concentrate fully on a DVD sale.
Another impetus for moving forward has gotten a hold of me, and I can only partially speak of it. The gist of it is that when Corrado has a deal, I will get the funds for my next film, and that has really impacted my decision process. I feel like I need to get moving and get on this next film.
Corrado will have achieved my goal for it. Direct to DVD distribution.
Other side note: Hangar 14 has been shelved indefinitely. This may comes as a shock to some of you, especially ones that wanted to work or help out on the film. Anyone reading this who was going to help with Hangar 14 - you've been assigned to RLBL now!
I canceled it because I don't feel that now is the time for me to make an epic action film with tons of guns and explosions. Don't get me wrong, that story had a great hook and would've been a hardcore action flick, but I've come up with something........better.
The next film will only be known by the acronym of RLBL for now. It is a serious movie about a serious topic. It's intended to be shown in theaters. It cannot be done for a budget less than $5M no matter how many hats I wear or creative we are. It's epic, simply put.
This is new territory for me. In less than three days, I've written 36 pages of script. It's quite simply the best work I've ever done as a writer. It makes Corrado look like cardboard. I love the story and have never been so fully engaged in writing as I am now. It's something I believe in.
And going against my own commandments to you all, I'm making my number two film one that I hope will win acclaim and awards. It's not as commercial as Corrado was, it has a waaay deeper story, but it's still fairly commercial.
Goals for RLBL:
- Cast with A listers.
- Shot on film. Won't even discuss HD for this, it's too epic.
- Theatrical release
- Win an award. Not some film festival award, not some online award. I'm talking golden globe or Oscar.
Yeah, the last one is a tall order. Laugh it up if you will but that's my goal. Let's see if I can achieve it, or even come close.
So that's where I'm at with the film thing. Sell Corrado, move on to RLBL.
***********Hint: RLBL is about TEOTWAWKI. That really is all I am going to say, save the PMs.********
Rubbersquare
Well-known member
the end of the world as we know it?
awesome.
can't wait!!!
awesome.
can't wait!!!
Zak Forsman
Major Contributor
i feel fine.
Rubbersquare
Well-known member
rim shot for zak. :beer:
taormina
Hates to Rent
Winner!
taormina
Hates to Rent
Not sure yet, Chip. Maybe.
taormina
Hates to Rent
Vic,
I knew it was just a matter of time before you chimed in affirmatively. Obviously, celluloid makes you react with the utmost celerity; your affinity to the product is lost upon exactly no one, hence your handle.
Translation: Yes Vic, I'm using film.:beer:
Dvader
Well-known member
Good luck on the new screenplay/film Adam, I'm sure if you succeed in your goals the inspiration meter around this thread will just explode.
I dig your enthusiasm with celluloid, and if you can get that 5M financing where shooting film won't really affect the overall budget much, then hell yeah! But just in case I wouldn't overlook that the 'epicness' of your movie won't lay in the negative, it will be uber cool to shoot film and lend street cred to those less informed, but i think you could make digital work just about as well. Soderbergh shot his 4hr CHE digitally and I haven't heard that mentioned once as a drawback to the movie. But anway, whatever you work with in the end good luck!
I dig your enthusiasm with celluloid, and if you can get that 5M financing where shooting film won't really affect the overall budget much, then hell yeah! But just in case I wouldn't overlook that the 'epicness' of your movie won't lay in the negative, it will be uber cool to shoot film and lend street cred to those less informed, but i think you could make digital work just about as well. Soderbergh shot his 4hr CHE digitally and I haven't heard that mentioned once as a drawback to the movie. But anway, whatever you work with in the end good luck!
smashedburrito
Well-known member
Please if you get the chance, consider doing another blog. This thread has been so inspiring and informative.