rjcam
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Hi
I had about 25% of footage in a documentary shot accidentally at 60i while I intended to shoot the whole thing in 24P (regular).
I did not realize using the rear scene dial to a "Flourescent" preset f2 would pull the whole camera out of 24P.
So, anyway, I converted all the lousy 60i footage successfully and it looks good, but the timecode has major issues.
the 60i footage got stuck with DF - dropframe - timecode.
And I guess ALL 24P true footage (with no pulldown in there anymore), is automatically NDF - non drop frame.
So my Timecodes are all off in the re-connected completely edited timeline (the original timeline was cut originally at 29.97 before all pulldown removals and Compressor 24P conversions). The whole film was cut originally at 60i / 29.97 the way I originally thought I was 'supposed' to do it. And then I saw how horrible the interlacing looks on flat screens etc... Really bad, so I felt I had to make it all true 24P in the timeline and for eventual DVD / h.264 exporting.
My question:
I have the whole 2 hr 35 min film cut, and if I try to re-connect the 25% of the clips that were shot at 60i and now converted using Compressor, the timeline is so far off. Is there any way around this and to force a DF vs NDF Timecode type thing to correctly recognize my original edits - or even close to it.
The odd thing here is that I had one whole tape shot wrong at 60i DF. And after I converted it to 24P NDF it came very close to correctly re-connecting all the clips the way they were supposed to be in the timeline. It was only about 20-30 minutes into the first 35 minute clip of the tape it started to go off the original timing of each edit in the timeline.
But on other tapes, where only a one minute clip was at 60i and converted the same way, the re-connected edits are way way off.
So the long 35 minute clip mathmatically made sense - it was off 2 frames per 2 minutes or something like that. And that seemed consistent.
But this other clip, which was a short clip that started right after a lot of 24P regular over 29.97 shooting, as a new 60i clip, well, the timecode starts off by almost 11 seconds (behind), and the ending timecode is off even more. And this is on a single 1 minute clip, not a 30-40 minute clip or anything.
So it appears I might be taking crazy pills or somehow Compressor mis-read or went haywire writing the new timecode and it's way off and making my timeline a huge mess.
Any suggestions how to make this a lessor pain in the neck? Is there anything at all I can do short of re-editing 40 minutes of the film all over again?
Thanks!
I had about 25% of footage in a documentary shot accidentally at 60i while I intended to shoot the whole thing in 24P (regular).
I did not realize using the rear scene dial to a "Flourescent" preset f2 would pull the whole camera out of 24P.
So, anyway, I converted all the lousy 60i footage successfully and it looks good, but the timecode has major issues.
the 60i footage got stuck with DF - dropframe - timecode.
And I guess ALL 24P true footage (with no pulldown in there anymore), is automatically NDF - non drop frame.
So my Timecodes are all off in the re-connected completely edited timeline (the original timeline was cut originally at 29.97 before all pulldown removals and Compressor 24P conversions). The whole film was cut originally at 60i / 29.97 the way I originally thought I was 'supposed' to do it. And then I saw how horrible the interlacing looks on flat screens etc... Really bad, so I felt I had to make it all true 24P in the timeline and for eventual DVD / h.264 exporting.
My question:
I have the whole 2 hr 35 min film cut, and if I try to re-connect the 25% of the clips that were shot at 60i and now converted using Compressor, the timeline is so far off. Is there any way around this and to force a DF vs NDF Timecode type thing to correctly recognize my original edits - or even close to it.
The odd thing here is that I had one whole tape shot wrong at 60i DF. And after I converted it to 24P NDF it came very close to correctly re-connecting all the clips the way they were supposed to be in the timeline. It was only about 20-30 minutes into the first 35 minute clip of the tape it started to go off the original timing of each edit in the timeline.
But on other tapes, where only a one minute clip was at 60i and converted the same way, the re-connected edits are way way off.
So the long 35 minute clip mathmatically made sense - it was off 2 frames per 2 minutes or something like that. And that seemed consistent.
But this other clip, which was a short clip that started right after a lot of 24P regular over 29.97 shooting, as a new 60i clip, well, the timecode starts off by almost 11 seconds (behind), and the ending timecode is off even more. And this is on a single 1 minute clip, not a 30-40 minute clip or anything.
So it appears I might be taking crazy pills or somehow Compressor mis-read or went haywire writing the new timecode and it's way off and making my timeline a huge mess.
Any suggestions how to make this a lessor pain in the neck? Is there anything at all I can do short of re-editing 40 minutes of the film all over again?
Thanks!
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