Consumer Ignorance toward High Definition

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Yes I have found that out myself very often! I'm always picking up new things! I just want to point out that I wasn't trying to make anyone feel badly by my post. I love sharing information about language is all! I just find it fascinatiing.

How it relates to spelling: well, spelling doesn't represent the true sound, as distinguished by phonetic traits, produced at any given time. It represents (roughly) the collections of sounds we percieve as being "one." The only thing that makes this difficult is that other languages do not always percieve the same sounds as "one"!

Honesty, I don't know how to write 'strè prst skrz krk' in the IPA because I do not know precisely how these sounds are rendered in speech. Depending on where you live, this same word could very well be pronounced several different ways (this happens in English all the time) so the IPA transcription would be different for each pronunciation. If you had a sound clip I could write it out for you though :)

Am I right in guessing that you speak Polish? I know a guy from Poland and when he writes in his native tongue it comes out looking very similar to what you just posted.

EDIT: Maybe we can get a mod to split these posts off into a topic for the off topic forum? That way we could continue to discuss without further hijacking of the thread ;)
 
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Sure. We can take it somewhere else (although I am not sure I have much to add).

I am Czech (we are Poles' older brothers, although they will say otherwise, but don't believe them! ;)). That sentence doesn't show properly in this charset, anyway. It's one example of Czech 'all consonant' sentences, and it is a tongue twister. It means 'put a finger through your throat', and yes, it sounds that way too. ;D
 
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[quote author=Bannnana Hoffman link=board=sony;num=1101870278;start=0#13 date=12/01/04 at 13:21:01]In the end the only thing that really matters is if the show/story was any good. So more people are going to let the bad spelling pass. THE END.[/quote]
Keep telling yourself that. A great story means nothing if no one takes you seriously.

Like it or not, good spelling and grammar adds an element of credibility to your story. It also gets you through the front door a lot easier when proposing your story to potential producers and/or financial backers.

No one is expecting that you to be the next Tom Clancy, Steven King or John Grisham, but a little more attention to detail in the mechanics of what you write will go along way in transforming your story into reality.
 
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Came about from random comments about education etc :D

Hey, it's a fascinating subject though (IMO!) - I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often ;)
 
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[quote author=Ranger link=board=sony;num=1101870278;start=15#22 date=12/01/04 at 17:18:49]
Keep telling yourself that.  A great story means nothing if no one takes you seriously.  

Like it or not, good spelling and grammar adds an element of credibility to your story.  It also gets you through the front door a lot easier when proposing your story to potential producers and/or financial backers.

No one is expecting that you to be the next Tom Clancy, Steven King or John Grisham, but a little more attention to detail in the mechanics of what you write will go along way in transforming your story into reality.[/quote]

Absolutely correct. I will not go past the first paragraph if the grammar or spelling is bad. Why waste my time? Why should I care about it if the author doesn't?

This is especially true if I'm reading something from someone who, oh, I don't know, wants me to HIRE him/her. The resume' gets pitched at the first misspelling.
 
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IN Reply to Ranger and David Jimerson,

---Ok, yes if I was writing a Resume I would make sure the spelling was correct. But say I had you read a 120pg script and it was brillant. Certianly you would not be so anal as to stop reading mid way because some of the spelling was mistyped or some of the gramer was improper.. would you?

My argument is simply that some people are too anal about spelling just as some people wash there hands too much. I say, Who Cares. However, I agree with you that there are times when spelling matters, but most times, who cares. -Stop washing your hands so much, its giving you dry skin.
 
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You weren't talking about a script; you were talking about a "story."  The only way it makes sense in the analogy you were using if it was prose, not a script.

I'm pretty sure everyone else understood it that way, too.

And yes, I'd be annoyed enough to toss the script if there were enough spelling and grammar errors.  It *matters.*  Why give someone who reads a hundred scripts a week another excuse to toss yours?

I would submit, actually, that without the basic language skills mastered, you *can't* write a brilliant script. A script -- a story -- is all about communication, and if you communicate poorly, how can it ever be "brilliant"?
 
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Misspellings and improper grammar distract from the story, just as an actor breaking character or a continuity error can distract you in a film.

Spelling and grammar are important for a writer to master, just as focus and exposure are important for the cinematographer. ;)
 
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He has a point about aspect ratios. Kubrick and Friedkin (who's a hack in comparison) preferred 1:1.33 to widescreen. Kubrick released a lot of his films "unmatted." They were stretched wide for theaters, and the area above and below was restored for home viewers, per his request.

Citizen Kane is one of the most stunning works of cinematography ever and it was shot in 4:3. 16:9, 1:1.85 and 1:2.35 aren't inherently more artful, although I like widescreen quite a bit, particularly for action films.
 
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[quote author=Bannana Hoffman link=board=sony;num=1101870278;start=0#0 date=11/30/04 at 19:04:36]
I think that the sollution is to start with the children. High school curiculum should get rid of Triganomitry and Algerbra 2 (which has no baring in the real world for most people) and instead teach home theater setup.
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Dang !! Trig and Algebra a BIG part of my job ! Not setting up home theaters.
 
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wow, look at the potential of the HD technology.

Amazing...what kind of discussion it can generate.

Enjoyed it, though.
 
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[quote author=Bannana Hoffman link=board=sony;num=1101870278;start=0#0 date=11/30/04 at 19:04:36]I think that the sollution is to start with the children. High school curiculum should get rid of Triganomitry and Algerbra 2 (which has no baring in the real world for most people) and instead teach home theater setup. How to program a VCR. and other problems that people actually encounter in the real world. Sony should sponcer the school programs cause maybe then people would want an HDTV.
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Welcum to the Skool of Advanced Home Theatar Edukachun
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Don't take are wurd for it.  Hear are some testamoniels from some of are former alumni:

James from NJ: "Home theater is my life."
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Tom from GA: "Home theater skool made me the success I am today."
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Timmy from CA: "Speling is overatted."
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Lou from NY: "I was the Distinguished Honor Graduate from the Class of 1993"
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I thought your post was funny before the grabs showed up. They took a while to load I guess. Which made it even more funnier.
 
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Nice Ranger!

This site is a blast. ;D

We are honored with super talented/knowledgeable people and as a bonus we get many folks with a fantastic sense of humor!
 
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[quote author=Ranger link=board=sony;num=1101870278;start=30#32 date=12/08/04 at 08:42:50]
Welcum to the Skool of Advanced Home Theatar Edukachun ... [/quote]

Wicked! ;D ... but, alas, so true.

--Ralph
 
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