Consensus on Sony A7SII Picture Profiles

I don't know if Vegas has secondary colour correction tools but if not that's where you're going wrong. Resolve is a brilliant tool and it really starts to make sense and the ability to isolate various elements in a frame and work on those without affecting anything else is a core part grading.

To do that yellow box, even if the shot is moving, will take about 30 seconds.
 
I think I'm too old now. I've tried it and I can't tolerate the workflow. The problem I have with working in Resolve, Premiere and others is the layout of the timeline and thus the editing speed working on the timeline. It's so much faster for me in Vegas.

I come from an audio background and have used Vegas since version 1 (remember Sonic Foundry?). I can do complicated soundtracks and rearrange scenes that would take me forever in Resolve or Premiere.

If Magix adds some more professional grading tools that would be great but I'm not holding my breath.
 
I don't know if Vegas has secondary colour correction tools but if not that's where you're going wrong. Resolve is a brilliant tool and it really starts to make sense and the ability to isolate various elements in a frame and work on those without affecting anything else is a core part grading.

To do that yellow box, even if the shot is moving, will take about 30 seconds.
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Are you talking about doing travelling mattes on every color scene by scene? LOL.

I'm joking but the point is the yellow box in that room is just a small example of one color that is shifted. Wail til we go outside.
 
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Your never too old to learn something new and I'm not suggesting that you give up Vegas for editing. What I meant was grading in Resolve, rendering your graded footage out and then editing in Vegas. Like Ben says, you can isolate a colour or a skin tone and just play around with it. The tools for skin tones alone are worth learning. If you want your footage to 'shine' then Davinci Resolve is the way to do it.

I know how difficult it is to move away from Vegas because it's great and it works but seriously the footage from my F5 looks so much better through Resolve. Those skin tones that bothered me so much are now fixed and I'm thinking to myself why didn't I listen to Dennis 2 years ago.

I do have issues in Resolve with the OFX plugins as they had to be disabled by Resolve for some reason. I'm hoping I can fix this as I have some decent OFX plugins for Vegas.

Vegas has a secondary correction tool but it does not have the motion tracking that can be done in Resolve.

From what I can gather MAGIX have teased a native ProRes workflow and a smart upscaling of 1080p to UHD in Vegas 14 which sounds great to me. No doubt they will want to open it up for Mac monkeys.
 
Footage from an F5 can easily withstand another render from Resolve to Vegas but 8 bit footage? Not so sure.

Vegas does have a secondary color correction tool but it's rather lame for precision grading I think. One advantage to using a film color LUT vs. grading by hand is that the colors come out complimentary.

In the little yellow box example, if you isolate and darken that by hand you might have to spend a lot more time to make it complimentary to your existing shades of blue. Change the blue, now your yellow doesn't match anymore.
 
Of course it can. You think the A7 is the first time people have used 8-bit footage in a professional workflow? As long as you've shot it properly and you're not trying to do ridiculous things in the grade to it that should be fine.

That's not an advantage of film look LUTs. It's a disadvantage of not knowing colour science or grading. Genuinely cannot see it taking more than 30 secs to sort and from then on you can just copy that node to every shot with it in.
 
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Well, I don't need the extra step of another render through Resolve. He said it helped with his skin tones. Great!

The advantage of LUTs for inexperienced people like me is the time saved. Besides, if there were something I really disliked about my footage I would spend a month learning Resolve or whatever it took to fix it. It frees up time for 100 other things I need to do---like securing permission to shoot in a forensics lab with no insurance. LOL.
 
It's fine if you have reasons for choosing not to do things a certain way, but that doesn't mean there aren't better ways to do things, and the only reason I go on is because posting these things as facts can mislead other people.

Colorista et al have a secondary cc option that might of some use within vegas.
 
Even when grading 8bit FS700 footage in Vegas I would render it back out in 10 bit XAVC Intra. XAVC I is a stronger and more robust codec so it makes sense to use it for further editing and renders. You could do the same with the codecs in Resolve. They have 10 bit codecs in a variety of flavors including MXF. I'm still learning Resolve so I have to experiment more.

If you insist on staying in Vegas have you tried Film Convert? It has some camera packs for the A7S. It's probably the best plugin for Vegas I've used.
 
Yes, I have Film Convert and the camera packs but prefer Impulz Luts.

As far as rendering, I have a lot more shooting to do but my plan (as of now) was to edit in Vegas and render to mpeg-2 or Sony AVC for Blu-Ray. This I would send to the 3rd Annual Sludgeville Comedy Film Festival.

After I win that, if I can get it on a streaming service it would need to be in Prores 422. Assuming Magix Vegas 14 doesn't allow you render to Prores (I don't think so but I think you will be able to edit with it) then I would render to 4K Intra or something huge, buy a Mac laptop transfer the file and render it from there.
 
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Footage from an F5 can easily withstand another render from Resolve to Vegas but 8 bit footage? Not so sure.
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As of Resolve version 12.5, almost all Sony codecs can be injested into Resolve without a rewrap or transcode that includes XDCAM files. If the colour of the job is important and it is off, I would give Resolve a go. It is NOT as painful to bring in 8 bit Sony files into as it used to be a couple of years ago.
 
No, I'm not saying it's difficult to import or use 8 bit files in Resolve and work with them. I'm saying if there are multiple renderings involved from raw footage to final output, his F5 footage can probably handle it easier with less degradation than my 8 bit 420 footage.

I suppose it also depends how drastic your grading is.

My 8 bit stuff is pretty fragile though. Some days if I just look at a shot of a wall or sky funny it'll start banding because it doesn't like me.
 
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