Composition for underscan

mrbrycel

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I'm kind of new to 16:9 aspect ratio.. but I really love how it looks. I actually like watching a 16:9 letterboxed image on a 4:3 screen more than a 4:3 image for some reason. But anyways... I didn't realize I had a problem until now. I usually compose my shots considering the brackets on the left and right side of the LCD, but never really the top ones. I figure that 16:9 letterboxed on a 4:3 screen, you wont loose any part of the frame vertically. And if I upload whatever the project online, I don't lose any part of the frame.

So I finally popped a project into a DVD player of a 16:9 1080i HDTV, and I was really disappointed. It looked like it cropped so much of my original frames out, that it didn't even look good to me anymore. The un-proportional letterboxed 4:3 version horizontally stretched to fit looked more appealing than the cropped proportional 16:9 image. Does every 16:9 TV crop out a ridiculous amount of the image? Or is it just my old rear projection 1080i TV?

I figure I could always scale down to the title safe area before exporting in FCP from now on, but If it ever happens to get watched on any other format (a 4:3 TV or Computer), then there will be a big black border, and that'll look extremely unprofessional.

I don't know what to do from now on. If I always frame my shots considering the whole frame, it'll look terrible on a 16:9 TV. But If frame my shots considering the brackets on the HVX's LCD, there will be a great deal of deal space when it goes online or to 4:3 screen.

Has anyone else faced this problem?
 
you cant really compose for underscan, because thats area within a screens visible area. and thats a post production task...

anyway - projection TVs SUCK in general. but...
I usually compose my shots considering the brackets on the left and right side
what you describe is "pillar boxing" - what happens when you display 4:3 on a 16:9 box
I figure that 16:9 letterboxed on a 4:3 screen, you wont loose any part of the frame vertically
- you shouldnt lose any part of the frame PERIOD. unless your NLE or dvd software is doing it
It looked like it cropped so much of my original frames out, that it didn't even look good to me anymore. The un-proportional letterboxed 4:3 version horizontally stretched to fit looked more appealing than the cropped proportional 16:9 image.
unless your tv is set to scale/stretch content to fit, you shouldnt lose ANYTHING - i think you've probably built your DVD incorrectly...
 
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we can diagnose it if you upload a screenshot from your timeline and take a picture of the image on your tv.
 
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