Compatible 24p Decks/capture Cameras, Need timecode

salils

salils

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Recently I purchased a Panasonic DVX100B and it has the ability to shoot at progresive frame rates, including 24P and 24P advanced. (see adam wilt's page for the differences) Seeing as this camera costs a considerable amount of money, I don't want to risk using the heads simply for capturing video. And as for my old mini dv camera...it doesn't show ANY timecode for 24p or 24p advanced. (works fine for interlaced video) Does anyone know if there is a fix for this? I have heard some people have been using a pv-gs120 as their capture cam for dvx footage but I was unable to contact them.
Are there any cheap capture cameras or cheap decks out there that I could use solely for the purpose of capturing my footage? I want to make sure that it IS compatible with these 24p progressive frame rates and shows timecode that Final Cut Pro 5 can read. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
Salils - I just posted a similar topic regarding using consumer grade cams for capturing... but I think i can answer part of your question. From what I understand from other posts on here, the 24p material is printed on tape at 60i - ie, the 60 fields sampled from the 24 progressive frames. So, then, theoretically, your consumer mini dv camera should allow you playback and capture any footage you have in 24p since it's still technically 60i. 24pa, I'm not so sure about, but I think you could find out pretty easily in the search function.

Regarding timecode, that's on tape - i think it'll be ok. The camera should just play it back through the iEEE1394 and read by FCP (I also use FCP, as well, by the way). I've used a consumer cam in the past (An old old old jvc minidv) and it has worked just fine for batch lists and the like in FCP... when it comes to pulling stuff off of other folks tapes. Aside from all of that, my only concern has been that the consumer deck/cam would wear the tapes unusually, or cause some other unforseen issue (dropouts or something).

Hope that helps answer some of your questions. I'm just learning too, heh.
 
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i was about to ask you if you were chul2! on wrigleyvideo, but i see now that it's salils...as they say in comic books tee hee...anyway if you look in the dvx user manual you'll see a graphic explanation of how the 24p is recorded.
 
yeah, did read that... reading more about it in the DVX Book right now, actually. I've enjoyed the DVX Book's explanations... a little more frank and to the point than the manual (after all, what company wants to talk about limitations in their own user manual, right?)

Oh yeah, Salils - someone responded to my other thread and mentioned that some panasonic dv cams don't read timecode - they said to check into the sonys more than anything.
 
I have captured from my DVX100A for the past 7 months(as long as i have owned it) and i have not got any less in quality or anything man, just use a cleaning head tape every 500hrs! thats what i do! :)
 
Four Eyed Monsters said:
I have captured from my DVX100A for the past 7 months(as long as i have owned it) and i have not got any less in quality or anything man, just use a cleaning head tape every 500hrs! thats what i do! :)
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Yeah, you won't see any reduction in quality with digital video, it just data, not an analog signal.

"Oh yeah, Salils - someone responded to my other thread and mentioned that some panasonic dv cams don't read timecode - they said to check into the sonys more than anything."


Yeah, I was wondering if people knew of specific models that they could recommend? (that they know work)
 
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