color correction

gkb444

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I'm sure this has been discussed before but I could not find the answer. I am running avid mc3 software only on a pc and want to add a monitor to do accurate color corrections for hd footage shot with an hvx200. I have a sony consumer dvd/vcr recorder with firewire input that I can connect to an lcd hdtv but I was not able to get avid to detect it through the firewire. what is the best way to color correct with avid? I am willing to spend money to buy the appropriate equipment I just don't want to buy the wrong thing. any input would be great. I am trying to move into a more professional setup and want to properly know what my costs will be.

Mainboard : Asus P5KC
Chipset : Intel P31/P35
Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 @ 2666 MHz
Physical Memory : 4096 MB (2 x 2048 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series
Hard Disk : SAMSUNG (1000 GB)
Hard Disk : WDC (74 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : ATAPI iHAS120 6
Monitor Type : AL1715 - 17 inches
Monitor Type : Samsung SyncMaster - 25 inches
Network Card : Attansic (Now owned by Atheros) L1 Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Ethernet Controller
Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.01.2600 Service Pack 3
DirectX : Version 9.0c (May 2008)

Thank You,
Geoffrey
 
Brace yourself:

MojoDX is Avid's lowest cost HD monitoriing solution, and it's $5K. Then you need to add a professional HD broadcast monitor to ensure you're monitoring your colors right. Those should run you maybe $2,500 for an "acceptable" one to I think $5 - $10K for a truly professional monitor.

I/O is Avid's weakest link, and on the Avid forums there has been major b*tching about it. They need to offer a simple HD out for monitoring for a file-based workflow like you have with the HVX. So far, they're missing the boat on it.

Michael
 
Recently I had a look at HP's Dreamcolor display. It looked really good and had presets for 601 and 709. Granted it's not at the same qulity level as an eCinema or Cine-Tal display, but it's a heck of a lot less dough (approx. $2k).
 
So $10,000. that's what I figured I just thought I would check to make sure before I begin dropping major dollars.

Thanks,
Geoffrey K Boyd
 
Is it possible to color correct in sd for a lower price? I know it's not the best plan but it might be a good start.
 
Yeah. You can buy a Mojo SDI and feed your monitor with that. You'll get a downconvert to SD. It won't be as accurate (601 color versus 701) but if you're careful you can probably make do.

The MojoSDI costs about $2,500. Still way too expensive, but more reasonable than $5K I guess, especially if you're delivering SD.

MIchael
 
Now see, if you had the HPX-170 or HVX-200A, they both sport full sized Firewire connections, not that 4 pin option. Because of the 4-pin, you cannot playthrough DVCPRO HD via firewire. But, full sized firewire to the HPX-170 or 200A, then from there to an HD monitor, and you can see your footage at full resolution. Without Avid cards. Or you can get the P2 Gear...but that is $4000, and you are in Avid MOJO DX territory.

But I have gotten from Avid to HPX-170 to my HD monitor no problem....no Mojo.
 
Now see, if you had the HPX-170 or HVX-200A, they both sport full sized Firewire connections, not that 4 pin option. Because of the 4-pin, you cannot playthrough DVCPRO HD via firewire. But, full sized firewire to the HPX-170 or 200A, then from there to an HD monitor, and you can see your footage at full resolution. Without Avid cards. Or you can get the P2 Gear...but that is $4000, and you are in Avid MOJO DX territory.
I think something else is going on preventing play-thru 'cause the only difference between 4 and 6 pin FW400 is that the 6 carries power + data while the 4 just carries data. The 6 pin also have a bit more robust plug which is why they get used on higher end stuff than the 4, I think.


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