CMOS vs CCD

If anyone has a cam with a 1/3" CCD and another cam with a 1/3" CMOS (ClearVid, or not) I'd love to some real world comparison shots posted. I'm really interested in how the CMOS handles highlight and latitude differences.

Please post. Thank you.
 
but the problem with that is, they never make the same camera with both types of sensors... there is a lot of variables involved (lens, compression format, etc)
 
I am far more interested in this sensor as the future:
http://www.foveon.com

it acts nearly the same way as film emulsion.. but with silicon.

Will be interesting to see when these start making their way into video cameras.
 
Interesting, Loki. It would be even more interesting to see how this sensor would work in a "video" camera. Lets hope it's something we can soon see.
 
kyle_doris said:
but the problem with that is, they never make the same camera with both types of sensors... there is a lot of variables involved (lens, compression format, etc)
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Exactly. From practical experience with DSLR cameras I can say today's CMOS and CCD technologies achieve very similar results. Final image quality depends on A/D converters, image processors, filtering&noise reduction algorithms and of course, optics. Canon is the leader, but it's not simply because they employ CMOS sensors in their DSLR cameras.

CCD vs CMOS issue is similar in video domain. Main and practical advantages of CMOS technology are lower energy consumption and easier integration with A/D circuits. Besides that, final results are similar and that's based on real life experience, not company ads. Of course, CMOS is slowly taking ground from CCD technology, but the reason is not image quality so I humbly think we should take it easy on CMOS vs CCD tech stuff.

Foveon is interesting step, but imho, only high dynamic range (HDR) technology will be next breakthrough. Until then we will see slow progress thanks to increasing charge capacity and lower noise floor levels, but that is not going to be revolutionary.
 
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Loki said:
I am far more interested in this sensor as the future:
http://www.foveon.com

it acts nearly the same way as film emulsion.. but with silicon.

Will be interesting to see when these start making their way into video cameras.
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Actually, Foveon has hit a few roadblocks which prevent it from advancing beyond its current design.
The sensor that will likely overshadow Foveon that is being developed right now intended for applications in both photography and cinematgraphy will be Fuji's OCMOS sensor.
Basically, Fuji has an organic CMOS sensor that's a hybrid of sorts, using organic pigments derived from their film that react to each primary color light. If combined with the current SR sensor technology they've been using, it should yield unparalleled results.
They've done quite a bit of R&D in this dept. and Nikon will likely be one the first beneficiaries of this technology, but it's also of interest to point out that their patents indicates a target in cinematography as well.
I'd like to see who will use it.
 
I don't know about Fuji's OCMOS (but I will do some research on that) but if it wasn't for foveon, I would have not bought a digital camera. (no pun intended in any way to other brand owners). I wish they (Sigma) would make better lenses available (brighter that is). I managed to "hook-up" some older Nikon glass and the difference was worth the effort.
Here are some very recent pics (using the stock 18-55 and 50-200 though)
http://dandiaconu1.myphotoalbum.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album03
They are all scaled down to about 1M (from 9-13Mb) to allow uploads. I am planning to print a large 40/60" from one of those pics. They look good on the monitor, but I want to see da print. :beer:
 
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