Cinevate Atlas 200 or MYT Large Slider?

Grug

Grug

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Hi guys,

I'm looking for a heavy-duty 5' slider, it's gotta be solid, smooth and quick to set up. I'd also want to be able to mount my Cinevate Axis Jib (100mm bowl) to it for sliding crane moves.

I've narrowed things down to the 60" Cinevate Atlas 200 (supports up to 200lbs) and the 5' MYT Works Large Slider (supports up to 250lbs). Both are obviously very solid units, the Cinevate is a little simpler (mounts straight onto combo stands), the MYT offers a little more flexibility (removable high-hat). Priced up with cases, the Cinevate comes to around $3000 and the MYT to around $3500.

I'm wondering people's thoughts on the two units, and what they'd recommend and why?

Also if anyone knows of other sliders in a similar price/performance bracket, I'd love to hear about them.

Cheers,

Mark
 
I've seen several BTS clips of major productions with DIY-looking sliders - 1.5 speedrail maybe 18" apart on combo stands or sticks, with small plywood trucks with bowl risers, using skate wheels on angled blocks. Latest was that Conan-Walking Dead BTS. At least it looked DIY to me.

Basically a small dolly, waist high. Probably $500 or less if you have the stands. Don't know what other features $3k gets you though, but I like the concept of it. My Igus is only good for the most stripped-down camera, I'll probably make something using 5/8 baby pipe for now.
 
The Dana Dolly is great, but not secure enough on its rails to safely run a jib on top of it. Obviously a full-size dolly is best, and I have a homemade one with 8' of track - but laying and levelling track takes time, the slider would be for rapid deployment.
 
Oh boy, u r opening a can of worms. I have Cinevate 200 now thinking of gettng Dana dolly. If i were to do it again i would d get MYT slider in no blink.
 
Patryk_Rebisz said:
Oh boy, u r opening a can of worms. I have Cinevate 200 now thinking of gettng Dana dolly. If i were to do it again i would d get MYT slider in no blink.
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Cheers Patryk, care to elaborate on why? (weighing up the plusses and minuses of these things when you can't physically handle them beforehand is hard!)
 
I use my Losmandy Porta-Jib Traveller mounted to my Dana Dolly on schedule 80 speed rail with a support in the center position. Once you have everything balanced it's not an issue.
 
Atlas uses ballbearings which require certain amount of motion to start rolling so micro moves are pretty much impossible to do.
 
I have the MYT Works Large slider and it's great when you need speed. It's self contained, smooth and will handle a lot of weight(at least according to the specs, I've never had more than 40lbs or so on it personally). I have a Cam Tram for large shoots(love it) and I've used a Dana Dolly several times and know guys that have them, and they are a pain in the @$$, in my opinion. Unless I'm on a big set-up and have the time, I want something that is super fast and reliable and that is the MYT Works slider. The only bad thing I've noticed is that when you tilt sometimes (I guess it can depend on the weight of your rig and drag settings), the high hat will pull slightly out of the carriage on the side that doesn't have the locking mechanism.
 
With Dana dolly you need to have a clever grip who knows how to create a speedy set-up. Put the rails on shortened lowboy on wheels and you are flying faster than with any slider.
 
Hi from MYT Works!

Hi from MYT Works!

Run&Gun said:
I have the MYT Works Large slider and it's great when you need speed. It's self contained, smooth and will handle a lot of weight(at least according to the specs, I've never had more than 40lbs or so on it personally). I have a Cam Tram for large shoots(love it) and I've used a Dana Dolly several times and know guys that have them, and they are a pain in the @$$, in my opinion. Unless I'm on a big set-up and have the time, I want something that is super fast and reliable and that is the MYT Works slider. The only bad thing I've noticed is that when you tilt sometimes (I guess it can depend on the weight of your rig and drag settings), the high hat will pull slightly out of the carriage on the side that doesn't have the locking mechanism.
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Hi there,

Our ears were burning - we couldn't help noticing that you guys were talking about us! We wanted to help you out with the hi-hat issue you're experiencing. There is a bit of natural play built into the latching carriage mechanism. This play is what allows for the easy one-latch release of your camera hi-hat. If you are concerned about this play, or if you notice a pulling occurring when you equip the system with a zoom lenses or something of the sort, you can counteract this with the use of our SRP Locking Bolts. These bolts (we recommend at least 2) screw in under the camera hi-hat and securely lock your mount to the Glide carriage. We hope this helps!

- MYT Works
 
Grug said:
Hi guys,

I'm looking for a heavy-duty 5' slider, it's gotta be solid, smooth and quick to set up. I'd also want to be able to mount my Cinevate Axis Jib (100mm bowl) to it for sliding crane moves.

I've narrowed things down to the 60" Cinevate Atlas 200 (supports up to 200lbs) and the 5' MYT Works Large Slider (supports up to 250lbs). Both are obviously very solid units, the Cinevate is a little simpler (mounts straight onto combo stands), the MYT offers a little more flexibility (removable high-hat). Priced up with cases, the Cinevate comes to around $3000 and the MYT to around $3500.

I'm wondering people's thoughts on the two units, and what they'd recommend and why?

Also if anyone knows of other sliders in a similar price/performance bracket, I'd love to hear about them.

Cheers,

Mark
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Hey Mark,

If you have any questions for us, please feel free to contact us at info@mytworks.com. We want to help you make this decision. The Large Glide is very popular and offers great motion, ease of control, and a plethora of accessories to service any need you may have. You may also want to check out our new Galaxy Line of camera dolly systems. These are based on a skateboard wheel design like the Dana Dolly, but that's basically where the similarities end. With a spring-loaded wheel module, our camera plate cannot be pushed off the rails. This design also means that constant pressure is applied to your length of standard speed rail (1.66 O.D.), making for an incredibly smooth and consistent motion. We know you're all the way in Australia, but if you happen to be coming to NAB next month we'd love to talk to you there (April 5-10, booth # C12026). Let us know if you have any questions for us! Thanks again for your interest in MYT Works.

- MYT Works, Inc.
 
Grug said:
Hi guys,

I'm looking for a heavy-duty 5' slider, it's gotta be solid, smooth and quick to set up. I'd also want to be able to mount my Cinevate Axis Jib (100mm bowl) to it for sliding crane moves.

I've narrowed things down to the 60" Cinevate Atlas 200 (supports up to 200lbs) and the 5' MYT Works Large Slider (supports up to 250lbs). Both are obviously very solid units, the Cinevate is a little simpler (mounts straight onto combo stands), the MYT offers a little more flexibility (removable high-hat). Priced up with cases, the Cinevate comes to around $3000 and the MYT to around $3500.

I'm wondering people's thoughts on the two units, and what they'd recommend and why?

Also if anyone knows of other sliders in a similar price/performance bracket, I'd love to hear about them.

Cheers,

Mark
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Hi Mark,

I realize I'm extremely late to the party, and that you've probably made your choice already, however, I thought I'd reach out and offer to answer any questions you may have, as well as share a few photos of the setup you were talking about - the Axis Jib mounted on the Atlas 200 Slider.

Here's one we took in the studio...
http://cinevate.com/website/images/axis-jib-on-atlas-200-slider.jpg

Here's another one taken at Jackson Hole by the crew at Rockstar Energy...
http://cinevate.com/website/images/axis-jib-on-atlas-200-slider-rs.jpg

Feel free to drop me a line anytime at dan @ cinevate dot com :)

Thanks
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Dan Walter
Team Cinevate
 
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