FS7: Cine EI Look in Custom Mode

Joshua Milligan

Joshua Milligan

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Hey friends, I've been a FS7 owner/operator for the last couple years and absolutely love my camera. I always shoot in Slog3/Sgamut3.Cine, but recent projects have had me really needing the ability to shoot higher ISO's than that of Cine EI's base ISO of 2000.

I want to have the ability to shoot in Custom mode when those situations arise, but I'm not sure what settings to use that would give me a similar look and grading ability to the Cine EI mode I typically shoot in. I understand that it won't be the same and that I'll need to do some post work to match, but I'd like to at least get in the same ballpark as Cine EI mode with Custom mode settings. Anyone have any advice on how to do so?
 
 
Good day.
I think the issue is that CINE EI is a malleable image, so there is no CINE EI look in camera. You grade it in post to look how you want it to look.

It comes down to what you want your image to look like on the Custom Side, and whether you want to bake it in or use a scene file. As others have mentioned, there are different and evolving opinions whether a baked-in LUT is superior to a scene file or vice versa. In fact, Mr. Jensen is doing an informal survey on which looks better right now (baked in vs scene file)
http://community.sony.com/t5/F5-F55/MLUTS-vs-Scene-Files-for-WYSIWYG-workflows/td-p/653349

Previously, I believe he had established that scene files were superior.

Any way, my best suggestion would be to look at the various scene files and see which one matches the look you are going for.

Abel Cine has some here:
https://www.abelcine.com/articles/b...nloads/new-sony-fs7-scene-files-from-abelcine
Mr. Jensen also offers three through his video course or book.

For myself, I am in the process of compiling these looks together and putting them on one screen, so I can see for myself more clearly the differences between them. Also, if you follow the thread on Green Grass Saturation, there are a couple of global adjustments you might want to make to your scene files as well.

I compare it a lot to finding just the right recipe. What you might like others might not. So at a certain point, it is completely subjective, but then again, if you find a lot of people liking a certain look, then perhaps there's something to it.

Just my two cents.
 
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If its too dark for Log ,then your probably better off not shooting LOG.. you'll get a ton of noise.. go to Custom Hypergamma 7 or 8.. best alternative and still room to grade to match other footage.. and at least some data in the shadows too to work with..

Or find/make a MLUT you like and burn in that gamma curve.. in Cine EI.. being stuff with the pre set WB..
 
What I find interesting is the difference between two Sony's own implementation of S-log/S-gamut:

- as an integral part of Cine EI "environmentt" on cameras like the FS7
- as "yet another gamma/color space profile" on the A7S/R cameras

With the latter, you can crank up ISO just like you would gain even when shooting with S-Log2/S-gamut (the only option on my A7Rii) when in low-light situ (I find 3200 ISO perfectly clean and free from noise); you can WB as well... Is this a similar experience when using S-log in Custom mode on the FS7? Asking, as I never tried the latter...

Piotr
 
If you need high ISO and extreme highlight control you can try slog2 in custom mode put NR to high it will need some tweaking in post.
 
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