CCing for web vs. TV

NorBro

NorBro

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I rarely (really never) edit anything for TV. I recently started editing my videos pretty conservatively in regards to legal limits for broadcast because I liked the way how everything looked "balanced".

What are your thoughts on the subject? Would you make a separate video for web and TV? If so, what different things would you do?
 
i do make separate grades for web, broadcast & cinema when the project needs it.. each of these are a subset of what ever the main deliverable is targeted, most commonly P3 as the main target, with a trim pass for 709, and a further trim pass for web...

here's a project shot on RED that i graded / finished for cinema, broadcast & web;
http://www.nowthisisyourtime.com/#/the-film/

the gamma in the blacks are softer in the web version, but it's all broadcast legal the cinema version was P3, so everything is "more", the broadcast version is a bit more saturated and has more contrast in the shadows.

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Good question. Personally, I find that codec is sometimes a factor to consider as well. For example, most times I notice that H.264 (for web) tends to flatten (or desaturate) color values so I have to compensate in order to ensure the grade stays rich (if that's what I'm going for). As Dermot pointed out, just make sure you stay within what's broadcast legal and you should be fine. I agree, you should always try and grade for the final method of delivery but at the end of the day it's the caliber/standard you set for your projects that will determine whether or not you put the extra work into it. Unless it jeopardizes meeting a deadline, I would suggest doing so.


(By the way Dermot, nice grade! If you don't mind me asking, what did you use to CC that piece?)
-B
 
thanks and thanks!

the director & editor worked together to make the cut work so well
Charlie the director;
http://www.charleystadler.com/fielms.html
and Patric the editor;
http://www.marshallstreet.co.uk/showreel.php?editor_id=12&reel_type=showreel

Spent 10 days finishing this short, there are many, many VFX shots that are hopefully well hidden.... and spent maybe a day and a half gradeing within that 10 days. We had the "look" locked down in the first 20 min tho.

I use Avid DS mainly, with some work in MochaPro and Nuke, all the gradeing is done in DS.

The gamma in the shadows is really quite soft in the web version, we tested it on Vimeo before locking the web grade - i can't show you the P3 version as you would need a display that supports P3 to see it properly, but it has a fair bit more crunch down low, on a computer mon it looks like a mistake!

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Dermot said:
i do make separate grades for web, broadcast & cinema when the project needs it.. each of these are a subset of what ever the main deliverable is targeted, most commonly P3 as the main target, with a trim pass for 709, and a further trim pass for web...

here's a project shot on RED that i graded / finished for cinema, broadcast & web;
http://www.nowthisisyourtime.com/#/the-film/

the gamma in the blacks are softer in the web version, but it's all broadcast legal the cinema version was P3, so everything is "more", the broadcast version is a bit more saturated and has more contrast in the shadows.

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dermot-

very nicely done.

thanks for sharing.

be well

rob
smalltalk productions
 
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