Capturing 24P through a non-24 camera
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William_Robinette
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Yes you can.
fevercity
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You can capture the footage from any DV source. This is why so many people choose to use a cheaper DV camera {as a capture deck} to save wear & tear on their DVX heads.
Remember to always capture it as 29.97 though. This causes some confusion here and elsewhere. Even though it is 24p material, it was shot onto a 29.97 tape. Final Cut needs to see all 29.97 frames and which frames were "flagged" by the camera for the pulldown.
Sounds contrary but it's true. Just ask Noah Kadner or Graeme Nattress. This is his post on Ken Stone's website:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/24p_in_FCP_nattress.html
Remember to always capture it as 29.97 though. This causes some confusion here and elsewhere. Even though it is 24p material, it was shot onto a 29.97 tape. Final Cut needs to see all 29.97 frames and which frames were "flagged" by the camera for the pulldown.
Sounds contrary but it's true. Just ask Noah Kadner or Graeme Nattress. This is his post on Ken Stone's website:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/24p_in_FCP_nattress.html
fevercity
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Yes - always capture as 29.97. That is UNLESS you are shooting with 24p ADVANCED. You're still capturing 29.97 but read on....
In that case, you would use the FCP Capture Preset for
"DV NTSC 48khz Advanced (2:3:3:2) Pulldown"
Again - that is ONLY if you are shooting in 24pA. Even if you look closer at that specific preset, you will notice that it is still capturing at 29.97 BUT it knows the datastream and states, "Removal of Advanced Pulldown and/or Duplicate frames from FireWire sources is enabled".
So - always capture 29.97 and,yes, you can capture from any DV source with firewire. I have a little Sony HandyCam DCR-PC5 that cost $100 at a pawn shop. Bought a new power supply so it's not eating batteries and it rocks.
In that case, you would use the FCP Capture Preset for
"DV NTSC 48khz Advanced (2:3:3:2) Pulldown"
Again - that is ONLY if you are shooting in 24pA. Even if you look closer at that specific preset, you will notice that it is still capturing at 29.97 BUT it knows the datastream and states, "Removal of Advanced Pulldown and/or Duplicate frames from FireWire sources is enabled".
So - always capture 29.97 and,yes, you can capture from any DV source with firewire. I have a little Sony HandyCam DCR-PC5 that cost $100 at a pawn shop. Bought a new power supply so it's not eating batteries and it rocks.
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William_Robinette
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It will apply to any DV editor.
fevercity
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I will defer to the great BennisHahn here. I know nothing about Premiere but I don't think this question is editor-specific......
No matter how you think about it, it's still and always will be 24p material captured onto a DV tape. Your editor needs the full DV stream to see what frames are 'flagged' for pulldown. Otherwise, it's randomly dropping frames for no good reason.
Just give your software the benefit of the doubt AND all the frames. Sounds counter-intuitive but it works.
No matter how you think about it, it's still and always will be 24p material captured onto a DV tape. Your editor needs the full DV stream to see what frames are 'flagged' for pulldown. Otherwise, it's randomly dropping frames for no good reason.
Just give your software the benefit of the doubt AND all the frames. Sounds counter-intuitive but it works.