Captain America: The Winter Soldier

KurtF said:
Too many "Jumped the Shark" moments. A disembodied Nazi scientist who's in a whole hanger of 1950's era tape based computers. The so called "Winter Soldier" is actually his old army buddy who lived, didn't age because of freezing, and was turned into a Hydra cyborg. Meh.
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It's a comic book movie.
 
Batutta said:
I liked it. Solid, entertaining, a bit old-school in its approach. But I am starting to get the feeling that you could throw any random, competent director into the Marvel mega movie machine and it would still turn out roughly as good. Say what you will about the Nolan Batman's, but they still felt like one man's specific vision. The Marvel movies, while consistently better than the DC ones, are starting to become somewhat generic.
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I see what you are saying but I like that there is cohesion between all the Marvel films (both in style and in story arcs). I think it's a great way to keep the movies interesting as they are all part of a bigger, connected whole.

KurtF said:
Too many "Jumped the Shark" moments. A disembodied Nazi scientist who's in a whole hanger of 1950's era tape based computers. The so called "Winter Soldier" is actually his old army buddy who lived, didn't age because of freezing, and was turned into a Hydra cyborg. Meh.
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There's some license taken but those are pretty much the same beats that happen in the comic books.
 
This was just plain good stuff. I loved that you could take all of the Marvel out of it -- make the characters CIA or NSA -- and you'd still have a thrilling movie. Very 1970s John LeCarre.

This strikes me as an excellent approach for making a comic book adaption feel more real-worldish -- make an established-genre movie which has comic characters in it, rather than the Nolan approach of being very, very conscious of trying to set it in a "real world." That way, the style is automatically more realistic than a four-color comic, but the comics elements don't stand out against the realism of the backdrop, as I think they kind of do in the Nolan Dark Knight films.
 
David Jimerson said:
This was just plain good stuff. I loved that you could take all of the Marvel out of it -- make the characters CIA or NSA -- and you'd still have a thrilling movie. Very 1970s John LeCarre.

This strikes me as an excellent approach for making a comic book adaption feel more real-worldish -- make an established-genre movie which has comic characters in it, rather than the Nolan approach of being very, very conscious of trying to set it in a "real world." That way, the style is automatically more realistic than a four-color comic, but the comics elements don't stand out against the realism of the backdrop, as I think they kind of do in the Nolan Dark Knight films.
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Nice way to think of making them. I think they will go that route with Doctor Strange.
 
Interesting perspectives on here.
I have no love for Marvel movies but this was possibly the best action movie I've seen in the last five years.
The opening sequence is the best I have seen since The Dark Knight.
 
Batutta said:
I liked it. Solid, entertaining, a bit old-school in its approach. But I am starting to get the feeling that you could throw any random, competent director into the Marvel mega movie machine and it would still turn out roughly as good. Say what you will about the Nolan Batman's, but they still felt like one man's specific vision. The Marvel movies, while consistently better than the DC ones, are starting to become somewhat generic.
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I think it's increasingly becoming a giant TV series, and like a TV series, the individual directors of episodes don't really do too much other than block scenes.

As for the Spider-Man movies, they aren't in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and are not subject to the same forces. Same for the X-Men movies.
 
I saw and enjoyed this movie. I really don't get why so many people praise this movie so highly however. I can't point towards anything terribly specific that I didn't like, but I really don't see what would make this movie better than Avengers or Thor or what have you. The "twist" was average, the characters were fine, script was fine as was the action. What did you all find exceptional?
 
No one said it was better than Avengers (the first one, anyway), but it's certainly better than Thor,which was just camp. Good camp, but still camp.
 
David Jimerson said:
As for the Spider-Man movies, they aren't in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and are not subject to the same forces. Same for the X-Men movies.
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This is actually incorrect. Marvel and Sony made a deal a few months back. Spider-Man is now in the MCU. Marvel is producing the next film whcih is coming out 2017. Sony is just paying for it.
 
Leon Bailey said:
This is actually incorrect. Marvel and Sony made a deal a few months back. Spider-Man is now in the MCU. Marvel is producing the next film whcih is coming out 2017. Sony is just paying for it.
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That would only apply to movies made in the future, not those already made. The previous movies didn't have to be made to fit.
 
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