cant get portable dvd player 3 work as monitor

jambredz

jambredz

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i bought this cheap dvd player http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PRKKB6/ref=cm_rdp_product_img to work as a monitor for when i have to shoot things for a director and he wants to see whats up. it has AV cable (or composite cabel is it?? ) to plug into tv for viewing. I used a cable i have for my capture cam...plugged into dvd player and into dvx100b, but nothing but the "no disc" screen is showing. How do i get it to work? is there some setting on the dvx that i should put it in?? wrong cable perhaps (though i doubt it).
 
You mean you want to output to the DVD player?

I see no indication that it accepts inputs on that page.
 
drat. i got confused... still kinda am. what cable and type of dvd player would i need?
 
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I got a SONY fx930 portable DVD player with a 9" screen and it rocks!
Has a composite input.
Great way to get through long airplane hours too.
Not cheap though - about $180.
 
DPStewart said:
I got a SONY fx930 portable DVD player with a 9" screen and it rocks!
Has a composite input.
Great way to get through long airplane hours too.
Not cheap though - about $180.
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I noticed B&H has them for $163 now. Does it work well as an external monitor? I noticed it's 800X480 pixels.
 
question...1.at what estimated length does a composite video cable (gold versions)start to lose signal? 50 feet? i dont need a 100ft which would mean adapters and such....so is 50 ok? 30?

edit: it would be good to know that for audio input as well

2. Also i cant find gold composites in longer than 30 on b and h ...but they have 50 and 100 foot ones that seem to be decent quality...but not gold. Iz it that much of an improvement in quality?? the price certainly is higher. if ya'll know where to orger longer gold ones, lemmi know (if its that much better)

3. And finally...do u know where i can get long 30-50 audio and video composites( gold if they are better). would be cool 2 hear whats goin on also.
 
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Dude, BNC cables are composite video. "Composite" has nothing to do with the connector, it has everything to do with the type of video sent. It's called "composite" video because:

Wikipedia said:
It is a composite of three source signals called Y, U and V (together referred to as YUV) with sync pulses. Y represents the brightness or luminance of the picture and includes synchronizing pulses, so that by itself it could be displayed as a monochrome picture. U and V represent hue and saturation or chrominance, between them they carry the color information. They are first modulated on two orthogonal phases of a color carrier signal to form a signal called the chrominance. Y and UV are then combined. Since Y is a baseband signal and UV has been mixed with a carrier, this addition is equivalent to frequency-division multiplexing.
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Speaking of connectors, gold connectors are a gimmick, nothing more. It's the kind of thing that home theater vendors like Monster Cable use to make more profit. Doesn't make a bit of difference. You can easily run 100' of composite video out of a DVX, I've done it (and without gold connectors :D ). On the other hand, 100' feet is a hell of a long ways to run unbalanced audio. I've seen it done, but I don't recommend it.
 
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JFEditorIV said:
I'm very aware of what composite is.
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Well, then, I apologize for going Wiki on you, but...

If you paid attention to the post I quoted you would see that he is talking about the cables that are marketed as composite, the yellow video cables. BNC does send a composite signal but they are not titled composite. In this instance, when talking about what cables to buy, composite and BNC are two different cables.
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Honestly, I don't care what B&H wants to call them, the distinction here is not between "composite" and "BNC" cables, it's between "RCA" and "BNC" video cables that are both composite. As long as it's decent quality RG59, it makes absolutely no difference what the connectors are, and telling somebody that "composite" cables are no good when the cables you're recommending are just as much "composite" as the ones he's talking about doesn't, IMO, exactly help him expand his knowledge.
 
down guys :)
thanks for all the help...and i dont mind the wiki reference...its good to learn those stuff (for me). I'm glad y'all take the time to help. the audio reference i made was really me being greedy...i wasnt gonna do it. just wanted to know the options.
 
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You aren't reading enough about what we were talking about before we got here. I'm saying that BNC is better for the application because of price and length, bang for your buck and the ease of use. I'm not talking at all about the quality of the signal because it's the same thing. You're trying to show me up with something I didn't even touch upon and you're not contributing to this at all or offering any beneficial information. I'm offering advice based on personal experience with these cables, something a jibberish article on wiki can't.
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OK, I already apologized for the Wiki, leave it alone already. As for not reading enough about what happened before...you're right. Because I'd missed this post:

JFEditorIV said:
You would need a male composite to female bnc to get out of the dvx output, then the bnc cable, then a female bnc to male composite then a female composite to female composite, and finally a male 3.5 video jack to a male composite to connect to the dvd player. Throw some gaffers tape on every connection and its good to go
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You were the first person to bring the term "composite" into this thread... and every single time you said "composite" in that post, what you meant, and what you should have said was "RCA." So, once you'd confused the OP, he said:

jambredz said:
question...1.at what estimated length does a composite video cable (gold versions)start to lose signal? 50 feet? i dont need a 100ft which would mean adapters and such....so is 50 ok? 30?

edit: it would be good to know that for audio input as well

2. Also i cant find gold composites in longer than 30 on b and h ...but they have 50 and 100 foot ones that seem to be decent quality...but not gold. Iz it that much of an improvement in quality?? the price certainly is higher. if ya'll know where to orger longer gold ones, lemmi know (if its that much better)

3. And finally...do u know where i can get long 30-50 audio and video composites( gold if they are better). would be cool 2 hear whats goin on also.
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And you replied:

JFEditorIV said:
DO NOT go with a composite cable, either way you are going to need adapters. Composite cables are shorter and more expensive. You can get a 100ft bnc for cheaper, why pass that up. You would be surprised how fast you can use 100ft. 50ft is nothing and you don't want the director running after you for moving shots. The 100ft. provides you with the freedom that you WILL need at some point.
I broadcasted the basketball games for my school live and I chose to use 10 100ft BNC cables for the multiple on court cameras and they worked great. I would not have been able to do it with composites and it saved a lot of money.
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Again, you were the one to told him to look for a DVD player with a "composite" input, which led him to look for "composite" cables to hook into it. The reason I stepped into this in the first place was that, in this post, you don't say, for example, "DO NOT go with what B&H calls a 'composite' cable," or even (as you'd like to retroactively suggest) "DO NOT go with 'cables that are marketed as composite, the yellow video cables.'" What you say is, don't buy any cable that's even associated with the word composite, after giving him that term; so if he were to find whatever cable you think you were trying to recommend to him, if he were to actually find it, he would, by your advice, not buy it if the word "composite" were associated with it in any way. For that matter, all you tell him to avoid is "yellow video cables," when what you really mean is "video cables with yellow RCA ends." (Unless, in your personal experience, you've actually bought video cables with a yellow jacket instead of black and had a bad experience.)

What you're doing is perpetuating a misconception that you gave the OP, that only "yellow video cables" (AKA video cables with yellow RCA ends) are "composite" cables. I was trying to point out that this was a misconception, and apparently I pissed you way the hell off by quoting you in the process. This was not my intention, and I will hereby apologize for not only the Wiki quote but whatever else I seem to have done to you (including, proactively, this post).

Finally, let me link to some cables that I have "personal experience" with that will work coming 100' out of a DVX. Markertek sells TecNec's video cable, in both RCA-to-RCA and BNC-to-BNC versions; please note that, in the 100' length, the RCA-to-RCA is actually a bit over $2 cheaper. I have used this series of cable (identical except for the connectors, and just for the record it's even available in an RCA-to-BNC version to come out of your DVX and into a recorder, monitor, or whatever with a BNC connector) for almost 12 years now, and have had very good luck with them.
 
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so how do i connect it to the dvd player like the suggested sony fx930 which has 3.5mm mini input, with that? I see coming out of the dvx with it but connecting to the dvd player that has 3.5mm mini input? kinda feel stupid for asking sumn so simple but i duno about these cables and whatnot. iz there something (adapter) to turn the "dvd end" of the RCA male into 3.5mm mini?
 
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What you need is a BNC/composite instigator confabulator... lol! ;^)

No, actually all you need is a female RCA to male mini.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/134163-REG/Comprehensive_MP_PJ_MP_PJ_Male_Mini_to.html

Your male RCA from the err... composite camera cable (an RCA composite cable, just to be clear)
plugs into the adapter, the adapter plugs into the DVD player.

Unless, of course, you have a female RCA at the end of your uhh... composite cable

Sound like what you need?
 
lol....thanks. just what i needed

For the record all ya'll helped so chill and lets play nice :) and make filmz :D
 
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