cpreston
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The fact that Canon specifically calls out WDR in the press release makes me think that is the limit of the non standard profiles.
Canon XF400/405 with 4K 60P
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The fact that Canon specifically calls out WDR in the press release makes me think that is the limit of the non standard profiles.
So how would the Canon XF400/XF405 compare with the new Sony Z90/NX80 cameras ?
combatentropy
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NorBro
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The notable differences are the Canon's have 4K/60p and image stabilization while the Sony's have its S-Log2/3 profiles and super slow-motion (1080/960p).
Both have 1" sensors and both should have great auto-focus (Sony's borrowing a9 AF here, which is currently its best focusing technology). Also, a $700 price difference; XF400 vs. NX80.
At the end of the day, both should offer similar performance with other various little differences (menus, settings, buttons, etc.) based on each company's software/hardware.
I am not expecting much improvement in video quality in any of them from previous generations, but the specs/included features sound great.
Here's a Z90 sample (shot with various settings) - https://vimeo.com/233764873
Hmmm... For me it sounds like it would be Sony's HD 10-bit LOG footage against Canon's 5-axis stabilizer.
Sony might have the better looking HD image, but being able to grab handheld shots with a good stabilizer is hard to give up.
Bassman2003
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I would guess the Sony stabilizer is no slouch either...
NorBro
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Is Canon's stabilizer that much better than Sony's? I've never used Canon's method so I don't know much about it.
Also has it been mentioned if the Canon does a full sensor readout in 60fps 4k mode? One advantage I just noticed when comparing the new Canon's to the Sony's is the new Sony models are 29mm on the wide end whereas the Canon's are 25.5mm, which is a substantial difference.
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Bassman2003
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I can't imagine a $2000-$3,000 video camera being released in 2017 not having IS.
But is Canon's 5-axis IS better than Sony's ?
Bassman2003
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No idea. This will have to come out in reviews but all the big three have great IS these days.
iggy097
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I thought that too - although I did cancel my pre-order. As much as I want to love this new camera - I don't think the high ISO performance will be as good as my C100. I'm in the market for a 2nd camera now for my C100 - and I was going to order 2 of these XF400's, and sell my C100 mark i, but I think I may just keep the C100 and get a C100 ii.
It's so hard to beat the battery lives of the C100 and after 2 years of heavy use on my C100, I just turn it on and it works, every time. So reliable.
I'll wait to see how the battery life and the low light is of the XF400 - and maybe I'll go that route, but I'm guessing the battery gets around 60-90 min on charge - where my larger C100 batteries can get 4-5 hours of off and on use.
Jaime Valles
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Yeah, battery life on the C100 is ridiculously good. I, too, can record for 4 hours continuously on a single battery. We'll see how the XF400 does on that front. But it's the high ISO that I'm most interested in comparing.
True North
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I have an XA30 which uses the same battery as the XF400 and 405. Battery life on the XA30 using BP-828 batteries, which is only an HD camera, will run about 2.5 hours. I suspect that the power consumption on the new cameras might be higher given that 4K requires significantly more processing power. I doubt battery life will be a strong point on the new XF cameras.