Canon RAW video

So many of these things turn out to be wrong...although I think the administrators of both Nikon Rumors and Canon Rumors do a good job of telling the readers when to take something more seriously or not. I have to admit, I look at both daily. I think Canon have bigger fish to fry than the codec or raw recording, an improvement would be nice, but the biggest problem is the way in which they're going to get to 1080P from a 28MP sensor or whatever it ends up being. They don't even do it right at 18MP.....let's hope this is what they tackle first. Even if it has an alias free tele mode like the GH2, that would be cool because the usable sensor size would still be quite large on a full frame spec. What would even be better is that they have been spying on Panasonic and learned how to implement their process of getting a relatively alias/moire free 1080 signal from high pixel counts.
 
The biggest issue I see here is that they need to cram more tech and dollars into making a product like this and making it more valuable for the video consumer WITHOUT upsetting the photo consumer which this camera is primarily targeted at. That's a tough thing to balance so unless they come up with a really really cheap way to get the RAW image off the sensor and properly conformed to 1920x1080 in camera with a good output, it'll never happen. The only other option is maybe they'll figure out a way to get the image off the sensor and right to an output somehow with the external recorder doing the conforming (which could open up options to make 720p images, or higher than 1080p images) but that's probably impossible to.

I'm not an expert with this stuff, but that's my take. Unless they can get the RAW video working cheap somehow, the camera will cost to much and they'll never do that. Even another $500 more than what the typical MSRP cost of a camera like this could hurt them a lot and they now it.
 
I'm very anxious to see what a Canon 5D Mark III might offer. That said, it is only rumor, speculation and innuendo until an official announcement is made. As such, posts like these shouldn't be placed in the "News" forum because they tend to blur the line between fact and fiction.
 
A dozen-megapixel image at 24 or more frames per second would be hundreds of megabytes per second.

On the other hand, it is within reach of commodity storage, like CompactFlash, to record raw video if the chip is 1920 x 1080. It's about 60 megabytes per second (math below).

But I keep seeing manufacturers shoot themselves (or is it us) in the foot by overdoing it in one respect (4K, 3D, etc.) which forces them to underdo it in another (can't do raw on commodity media, etc.)

(1920 pixels x
10 bits per pixel /
8 bits per byte *
1080 lines per frame x
24 frames per second /
1024 bytes per kilobyte /
1024 kilobytes per megabyte =
59 megabytes per second.)

Can't complain too much, but I'm still waiting for: 2K, 1-60 FPS, global-shutter, raw-recording, compactflash-using, S35, 2-XLR, DVX100-size, interchangeable lens camera. The technology is there for it, they just need to stop messing around.
 
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External recording through a clean HDMI out or something isn't going to be RAW (in the sense of white balance and sharpening type settings not being "baked in" to the image), it's just going to be uncompressed (or less compressed). That's not nothing, but it's nowhere near as cool as RAW.

Also, I'm more worried about the artifacts of downsampling than higher bitrates. I don't understand why they can't put a 1080p sensor in a DSLR body.
 
I have been looking at this issue and it really boils down to economies of scale. The number of DSLR units sold is massive compared to a purpose built video chip type camera. So this makes the video unit a lot more expensive to make and more of a business risk to put on the market. The NXCAM-35 and the Scarlet are two of the first examples that will appear. The AF-100 is about the best example of "porting" a larger resolution chip to a video camera role. Which allows that camera to be sold for $5,000
 
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