Canon R5 Announced with 8k

ahalpert said:
Maybe they just needed someplace to put their cold packs down?

How interesting that the cold pack does not feature in the cover thumbnail...

Soon we'll see reviews about which cold packs work best for the R5
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Holy crap - the cold pack DOES feature in the cover thumbnail though!
 
ahalpert said:
Well, you can still record UHD from an APS-c crop on the R6. It should be a full readout and I bet the rolling shutter is much improved. Not a bad thought there either
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I haven’t seen that its possible to record any heat-unlimited recording on R6 according to Canon, (nor any APS-C). Its a pity.
 
Vino said:
I haven’t seen that its possible to record any heat-unlimited recording on R6 according to Canon, (nor any APS-C). Its a pity.
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Hmm I dunno. The 4k30p APS-C crop was not listed on their heat sheet so I assumed it was ok.

But now I'm over it. The A7SIII looks like it will work. Maybe canon has better color, higher resolution and internal RAW. But the Sony is far more designed for video shooting and most importantly does not overheat. More dynamic range too, by the looks of it
 
ahalpert said:
Hmm I dunno. The 4k30p APS-C crop was not listed on their heat sheet so I assumed it was ok.

But now I'm over it. The A7SIII looks like it will work. Maybe canon has better color, higher resolution and internal RAW. But the Sony is far more designed for video shooting and most importantly does not overheat. More dynamic range too, by the looks of it
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Yepp - A7siii looks more reasonable for general video.

R5 more of winter-video-camera :-)
I (might) have a Svalbard trip coming up this winter, and there the 8K bursts of magnificent landscape would be great and the risk of overheating not that high :-) (cold!).... on the other hand: its cold AND dark so the A7siii eyes might be more effective...
 
I see that people really really really want to find a way for the r5 to be a useful tool that they'd want to use.

I'd be fine with using ice packs if there was no other alternative giving me similar IQ, but there are plenty.
I never had a shoot where I finished early or had time to spare. A camera that overheats and unpredictably shuts down for an unpredictable amount of time sounds like a nightmare.
An APS-C camera that shoots good 422 4k 60fps with great AF is neat but this leaves out all the major points of the r5 (full frame, 8k, raw), creates big issues with lenses (the APS-C mirrorless mount that Canon uses is not RF) and I wouldn't pay 3x the price of an XT4 just to have 422 also when shooting 60fps.

A few years ago we would be jumping through all the hoops, nowadays there are just way too many good options out there.
 
Samuel H said:
I see that people really really really want to find a way for the r5 to be a useful tool that they'd want to use.

I'd be fine with using ice packs if there was no other alternative giving me similar IQ, but there are plenty.
I never had a shoot where I finished early or had time to spare. A camera that overheats and unpredictably shuts down for an unpredictable amount of time sounds like a nightmare.
An APS-C camera that shoots good 422 4k 60fps with great AF is neat but this leaves out all the major points of the r5 (full frame, 8k, raw), creates big issues with lenses (the APS-C mirrorless mount that Canon uses is not RF) and I wouldn't pay 3x the price of an XT4 just to have 422 also when shooting 60fps.

A few years ago we would be jumping through all the hoops, nowadays there are just way too many good options out there.
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It's not an A cam for me, I already have a C500MKII, it will be for stills, timelapse, gimbal shots and a C camera on interviews.
 
Liam Hall said:
It's not an A cam for me, I already have a C500MKII, it will be for stills, timelapse, gimbal shots and a C camera on interviews.
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How long are your interviews? Stills/timelapse sound great. Gimbal shots I could see if you're only doing a specific set. But interviews?
 
Liam Hall said:
4K/25 doesn't overheat. So interviews shouldn't be an issue. Or am I missing something??
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I'm not 100% certain but I believe that FF 4k25p HQ will overheat. The lower-quality mode will not, and neither will cropped mode. So I suppose if you used it in cropped mode for the interviews, you'd be golden. Lower-quality mode seems a bit mediocre.

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Yes, that was my understanding as well: it's not just high frame rate that's a problem, normal operation at 24p or 30p also brings the overheating pretty fast, unless you go for the crop mode or the low-quality mode, which I wouldn't want to do on such an expensive camera... unless I got it for stills and had it lying there, which may be exactly your case :)
 
Samuel H said:
Yes, that was my understanding as well: it's not just high frame rate that's a problem, normal operation at 24p or 30p also brings the overheating pretty fast, unless you go for the crop mode or the low-quality mode.
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The 'lower quality mode' might be good for interviews as its less detailed. Yes, I am grasping at straws LOL.
 
Liam Hall said:
The 'lower quality mode' might be good for interviews as its less detailed. Yes, I am grasping at straws LOL.
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I don't mind using my 5Dmk3 for 3/4 ECU matched with my C300 A-cam, partly for that reason (who needs those fine details?) and the skin tones look nice :)
 
Liam Hall said:
That's my warped thinking.

I joke, but I bet it looks better than my A7III which it would be replacing.
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I would go cropped mode maybe. Better readout method and you can pick a lens for the interview (i mean you're not fouling up the range of a 24-105 on gimbal). the camera will do everything else you want, so you're pretty close (i'm assuming you don't need a lot of full-frame gimbal shots)
 
I totally forgot the Metabones EF to RF Speedbooster existed. And rumor is Canon is making one too. That raises a lot f interesting possibilities.

On the R6, 4K super-35 crop may be simply a center crop? That should look pretty great, right? And no mention on the chart of a time limit when shooting 30, 25 or 24p. That could be nice.
 
ahalpert said:
I would go cropped mode maybe. Better readout method and you can pick a lens for the interview (i mean you're not fouling up the range of a 24-105 on gimbal). the camera will do everything else you want, so you're pretty close (i'm assuming you don't need a lot of full-frame gimbal shots)
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Interviews I can see being in S35 as the C500 will take care of the wide in FF. My gimbal doesn't get a whole lot of use, mainly because I hate my A7III so that may change!
 
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