Canon R5 Announced with 8k

Run&Gun said:
Wonder if you'll see people doing like in the old RED days, putting ice/cold packs on the camera in an effort to keep it cool enough to keep running.
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you can do it like Shane Hurlbut in the 5DM2 days.
The 5DM2 didn't shut down but it suffered horrible from color noise when the sensor was getting warm.
Just put four bodies in the bag. One for rolling three for cooling down.
 
Clermond said:
you can do it like Shane Hurlbut in the 5DM2 days.
The 5DM2 didn't shut down but it suffered horrible from color noise when the sensor was getting warm.
Just put four bodies in the bag. One for rolling three for cooling down.
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For that money, you could buy a C500mk2.

Or - "Good news, honey! I bought an R5 so now we're moving to Alaska so it won't overheat!"
 
ahalpert said:
Yeah I agree with you. And you can do ND with the drop-in filter adapter...
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Isn't that limited to adapted older lenses with longer flange-back distances? I'm not sure any of the new mirrorless cameras with native lenses having short flange-back distances can accommodate a drop-in ND or "ND throttle" adapter, at least not without optics. Does such a thing exist?
 
Only for EF lenses...electronic ND is the future. But the adapter is really nice for people with EF glass. 1.5 to 9 stops.
 
NorBro said:
Only for EF lenses...electronic ND is the future. But the adapter is really nice for people with EF glass. 1.5 to 9 stops.
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Yeah and I have several AF EF lenses. Plus, aren't the RF lenses focus-by-wire? Not great for manual.

It's looking to me like no-crop 4K 60p will always have an overheating limit. There's no lower quality readout option for that that is unlimited.

And on a hot day, lord knows what your max rec time will be!
 
NorBro said:
Only for EF lenses...electronic ND is the future. But the adapter is really nice for people with EF glass. 1.5 to 9 stops.
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We both posted the same thing simultaneously :) However I'm not sure electronic ND will work in a mirrorless body since they either cannot go to 0 stops or if so they max out at about 3 stops. Unlike a flat-front camcorder, there is no easy place to slide or swing the ND element out of the optical path. See attached cutaway of the Sony FS5/7 mechanism. If the sensor could go to ISO 4 or 8 that might be a solution, but that would seemingly require another low-noise analog amplifier/attenuator per pixel, IOW either triple gain for a nominal dual-gain design or dual gain for a single gain design.
 

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Yes - believe it or not, I will still need to focus manually sometimes even with DPAF available. And really what I would like is full-time manual override but I don't think that's available in video AF.

But if you can map a linear focus function to your lens like my S1 did, you're fine
 
You can program the set button inside the wheel (or other buttons) to pause DPAF and then use the lens to manually focus. It's what I do (on the DSLRs) when needed.

One of the most simple and beautiful features available in cameras (the pausing).
 
NorBro said:
You can program the set button inside the wheel (or other buttons) to pause DPAF and then use the lens to manually focus. It's what I do (on the DSLRs) when needed.

One of the most simple and beautiful features available in cameras (the pausing).
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That is extremely interesting. I wonder if I could activate that from the gimbal handle but I think it would have to be mapped in-camera to the half-shutter press function because that's like the only function I can trigger from the Ronin-s, aside from recording.
 
I think the shutter button may be one of the buttons you can't use, but not 100% positive (I don't remember as it's been at least 6 months now).

But would the trigger from the Ronin be able to initiate a half-press vs. a full-press?
 
I haven't used it in a while because you can't do both an external monitor and gimbal control with the S1

But if I recall correctly, yes you can do a half-press. But I think it's fidgety and it's easy to overshoot and do a full press!
 
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It looks like 4K 60p has a heat limit in crop. Seems 4k 60p on the R5 will always have a heat limit.

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Meanwhile these are the latest rumored specs on the A7SIII:

FHD 240fps, 4k120fps 10bit 4:2:2 and 4K120fps raw over HDMI.
 
I can't imagine any situation where I'd personally overheat my camera. I have never filmed more than real-time two minutes of 4K/60p.

4K/30p not being limited by heat is good for the highest bitrate 4K/24p then I assume (interviews, keynotes, corporate panels) since it's not even on the chart.
 
NorBro said:
I can't imagine any situation where I'd personally overheat my camera. I have never filmed more than real-time two minutes of 4K/60p.

4K/30p not being limited by heat is good for highest bitrate 4K/24p then I assume (interviews, keynotes, corporate panels).
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I have corporate video/promo clients who shoot everything besides interviews at 4k/60 "just in case" and it's run and gun rolling for hours. Like - we're delivering the new Pixel in Domino's boxes for some influencers to play with and you need to capture every moment and angle
 
And actually for a similar reason some (not all) of my wedding companies shoot everything but the formalities in HD 60p. And they'll be switching to 4K soonish

But my testimonials shoot next week will all be 4K 24p.
 
But are they aware of what they are actually doing? Meaning sacrificing the look of the lower framerate?

Like the future-proofing makes 100% sense, but most productions with this in mind are covering with separate cameras so you have both capture formats (but not always possible/in the budget for many things).
 
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