can you use a zeppelin with mic on camera?

[ade4all]

now i know a mic on camera is the assumed last resort, but for me most of the time it is the only option. i work alone mainly covering events, often outside. i use a rode ntg2 on a dvx, can i mount a k-tek zeppelin or rycote windshield on camera or is it just too big & be in the frame? i use a sabra som shock mount which does mount quite high off the shoe adaptor, would i need to get the k-tek shockmount to work with the zeppelin? also which size zeppelin should i get for use with the rode, it is a big shotgun mic. eventualy i will get the at 4073a mic but for now this is what i have. any help would be gratefullly accepted

 

[SMuir]

If the end of the windshield sneaks into frame, you may have to use an offset bracket to mount it to the accessory shoe.

The older-style Rycote modular suspension and zepplin kits can be easily adapted to offset the stand-mount to sit farther back along the camcorder chassis. As for sizing, there's a very helpful sizing chart over at Rycote's website. If your particular mic isn't listed, just find one with the same dimensions.

Have you considered a "gorilla condom" rather than a full zep'? I've found that Rycote softie systems work quite well on-camera. They don't offer quite as much protection as a full zep', but a softie shockmount/windshield combo is much more reasonable than a modular suspension and windjammer.

 

[ade4all]

thanks for the advice, i already have the dead cat that comes with the rode but it's not that great when in a breeze, i presume the rycote softie is more effective, costing many times more? am wondering if i could double up a rycote softie with the rode deadcat for windy times? looking at the rycote systems they seem to have softies & then windjammers that fit over these for additional protection. my only worry would be whether the deadcat would fit over the top of a softie, it's already a snug fit on the rode. is this a viable option?

 

[SMuir]

The Rycote softie systems consist of a shock-mount and a slip-on open cell windshield with integrated fur cover. http://www.rycote.com/products/softie_system/softie_mount/ http://www.rycote.com/products/softie_system/softie_windshield/

I'm uncertain how well the Softie Windshield would work with your existing shockmount, because crossed-band shock-mounts aren't designed for the added nose-load of a slip-on windshield.

Poking around the Rycote website, I ran across this:
http://www.rycote.com/products/softie_system/camera_mounted/

It looks a bit lighter-duty than the standard softie windshield, but it may be better-suited to your needs.

 

[ade4all]

hey thanks again for your efforts, bit of a bummer to have to buy another shockmount with it but i guess i would have to do the same with the modular windshield.
my other major query is to how much better this would be than the rode deadcat that i am using now, quite a bit of money if it is only a marginal improvement. the rode website does not give any figures with which to compare

 

[ade4all]

have just had a look on the bh photovideo website & they sell a rycote softie kit with rode ntg2 that uses a cross band shockmount similar to mine which makes me wonder if my sabrasom will be ok with a softie?
also there is a k-tek zeppelin fuzzy with shockmount which seems to do the same as the rycote system, the shoe mount version being a bit cheaper