Can we view on HDTV (yet)?

dregenthal

dregenthal

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Okay, there are probably a lot of solutions Blu-Ray, HD-DVD among them . . . (and perhaps some of which I am ceratinly unaware of).

What I want to know is what people are doing, in a practical way, to deliver finished product in that can be viewed on an HDTV (without having to own an HVX-200)?
 
How do you do it when you DO own an HVX?

Is there anyway to transfer edited footage back onto a p2 card? (I'm on a Mac, so it's a quicktime file). And I thought you couldn't view footage through the HVX. it's not a pass through viewer like we are used to with work with DV.
 
Brian Petersen said:
How do you do it when you DO own an HVX?

Is there anyway to transfer edited footage back onto a p2 card? (I'm on a Mac, so it's a quicktime file). And I thought you couldn't view footage through the HVX. it's not a pass through viewer like we are used to with work with DV.
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Hi Brian- Hey, I don’t know . . . I’m the one asking the question.
Where is that Barry Green when you need him anyway? Probably working on a Boot Camp for Iceland, or Costa Rica or something like that . . . ;-)

I’m not sure, because I’ve never tried it but I thought you could do component out with the supplied D4/component cable . . . same thing I use to get the pic to my Marshall (but again, I have never tried it).

With the exception of Edius Broadcast I am not sure what other NLE’s will write back to the camera . . . although I *think* the Avid Xpress Pro HD can do that also.
 
Yes, you can send back your Avid Xpress Pro HD time line to the hvx and if you can see it in the vhx monitor, then you simply rec to the P2.

You need to have the time line in the same res/frame rate than the VHX.

:)
 
Exporting from FCP to P2 Card

1. Carefully identify your sequence settings in FCP, ie 720p/60.

2. Match those settings in the cam using the camera mode, number 5, recording set up.

3. Attach cam via firewire, then turn it on, and launch FCP.

4. Switch to VCR mode.

5. Press audio dub button to go to full screen

6. Press menu, then recording set up (no. 1)

7. 1394 TC REGEN - On
1394 UB REGEN - On
TC MODE - DF
TC PRESET -----
UB MODE - FRM RATE
UB PRESET ----
1394 IN PRESET - OFF

8. Render sequence.

9. Print to video command

10. At prompt, simultaneously push rec/grey button under handle

11. press stop when finished recording
 
For everyone asking for a solution to playback your Hi-Def content, whether at home or on someone elses HD-TV:

Toshiba and HD-DVD to Standard DVD-R:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Toshiba_HD_A...-31736203.html
-- AVS forum post on how to get the HD content to work on the Toshiba -- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ighlight=h+264

UPDATE!!! : The process for creating an HD-DVD with a standard DVD!!! NOTE: You CAN fit an entire movie on one Disc, you simply have to know how to do it. For the method listed below, you can fit 40minutes of footage onto an HD-DVD. That means ONE SHORT MOVIE!!!! !HURRRAAAAHHH!!! You MUST CONVERT YOUR HD FOOTAGE TO HDV/MPEG2 before doing this!

k, here is a detailed step-by-step:

STEP 1-
You need a HD Video (1080i and 720p both worked for me)

STEP 2-
Open Ulead DVD MovieFactory 5

STEP 3-
Select "NEW" project.

STEP 4-
Select "HD DVD"

STEP 5-
Select "Add Media" and find the HD Video from step 1

STEP 6-
Select "NEXT" and set-up your menu if desired

STEP 7-
Select "NEXT" then select "Create HD DVD Folders" check box. Make sure you know where the folder will be saved. When this is completed go to step 8

STEP 8-
Open up Nero 6.6 and select Nero Burning Rom. Select DVD-Video from left menu.
Next, click the "NEW" box.

STEP 9-
The left half of the next screen is your new DVD, the right half is you files. Find the HDDVD_TS folder you created in step 7 from the right side and drag it over to the left (Your new HD DVD). Notice that the option to burn the DVD is ghosted, preventing you from creating the new HD DVD...no problem, lets go to step 10.

STEP 10-
Go to your desktop and create a new text file. To do this right click on the desktop and select NEW. Then select TEXT DOCUMENT. Now right click this file and select "rename". Rename the file "VIDEO_TS.VOB" and drag it into to Nero screen. You need to drop it into the folder "VIDEO_TS" (it has the red folder icon).

Now notice what just happened....the "BURN THE CURRENT COMPILATION" icon has become un-ghosted. MIRACLE! WOW!

STEP 11-
Burn the damn DVD

STEP 12-
Put the DVD in the Toshiba HDA1 HD-DVD Player

STEP 13-
WOW...it works!

: I will go into more detail on how to create a DVD with a full length movie in a bit. :
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Buffalo Link Player -- http://www.buffalotech.com/products/...p?productid=96

Added: Another player with HDMI out capabilities, not yet available in the US -- http://www.z500series.com/

While not new, it seems that not a lot of people know that it exists. This is a practical solution for those whom want to port something lightweight to a friends house for viewing.

Price: I've seen 250.00 already and I barely looked. You can probably fine one cheaper.

The concept: Burn a DVD-R with WMV-HD (or Divx-HD) on it, and play it back as you would a regular DVD. The only difference is, you get Hi-Def clarity!!! You can also stream the hi-def video, because this peripheral is wireless. Networking capabilities are always awesome when you have a HTPC (home theatre PC) setup going already.

The Advantage: Lightweight, portable possibilities, and best of all: Encode your already awesome HVX footage to WMV-HD and show some friends at their own home!!

Disadvantage: Only Component out. That means no DVI out or HDMI out... I like my DVI signal. But component is more universal between HD- Televisions anyway... so it's not really a disadvantage at all.

Cords/Cables: Invest in some hi-quality Component cables. S-video and Composite (red,yellow,white) are NOT hi-def signals. Though HVXguy says his S-video signal still looked yummy to his tummy. (That's not a quote, by the way.)

Why not wait for/buy a HD-DVD Player?: Because, you need an HD-DVD burner to get the HD content onto a blank HD-DVD disc. Want to know how much they're going to cost? =)

So, this is what I see as a NOW solution for those wanting to show HD content to people who don't have HTPC's or any other way to view it. You can use your camera, I'd suppose... but I think this might be a tad bit easier. That's me thinking, of course.

Keep in mind... you might want to actually display the content on a HD or HD-ready television... or it's quite pointless.
 
dregenthal said:
Where is that Barry Green when you need him anyway? Probably working on a Boot Camp for Iceland, or Costa Rica or something like that . . . ;-)
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Actually, next up is a three-week tour of the South Pacific -- New Zealand, Australia, and then ending with the HD Mega-BootCamp in Hawaii... :thumbsup:

For playing on the HDTV, the problem is: what do you have that can play high-def? What does anyone have?

The only commercially-available consumer-priced products out there that can play HD to an HDTV are things like a D-VHS deck, an HDV deck, a few red-laser hybrid DVD players like the Avel LinkPlayer, or the new Toshiba HD-DVD player. That's about it, so far, and combined market share of all those together is probably less than 1/10 of 1% of American households.

So in other words, no practical playback system exists for distribution to the consumer, to play on an HDTV.

The only large-installed-base HD delivery system currently available is to author an H.264 or WMV9 high-def DVD on your regular DVD burner, and have the customer play it on their computers.

but I thought you could do component out with the supplied D4/component cable . . .
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Yes that works.

With the exception of Edius Broadcast I am not sure what other NLE’s will write back to the camera . . . although I *think* the Avid Xpress Pro HD can do that also.
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FCP and Avid can both stream firewire data back to the camera, which you can capture by pressing the MCR REC buttons. EDIUS lets you author a file directly back to the card.
 
Thanks for the info guys! That's great to know. I just would like to be able to see stuff on a commercial HDTV to set stuff and to see what I'm actually getting. Even if it's through the camera, that's fine. I had to show a client what kind of stuff the camera can do so I played him stuff that was currently on my P2 card (raw footage). I would have hated to show him an SD DVD and then said, "But it's even better than this"
 
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