C700 ff

puredrifting said:
The really should have included Cinema RAW Light recording as an option. Yes, I know they signed a deal with Codex but jeez, how are they going to make CRL a thing if it's only on their lower end camera?
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I signed in to say the same. They have convenient internal RAW on their mid-range, $7,500 camera; but not on their flagship, $33,000 camera?

BTW I'd be shocked if they announce a new C300 without CRL. At this point the new C300 will just be a C200 with timecode, dual slots, a broadcast codec and LUT support.
 
If one reads into what one is reading, what exactly is CRL?

We know it stands for 'Cinema RAW Light' but does anyone know how it truly compares to traditional RAW outputs/recording? (I don't.)

Currently, you're not able to manipulate the metadata the same way you can with the other RAW offerings.

So what is CRL? Because IMO, it's simply a new format created for a new camera mainly for marketing purposes, which may be visually very similar to other options like XAVC, XF-AVC, AVC Intra, ProRes, etc.

I'm sure it's providing tons of information from the sensor, but so are the other formats. Why can't we get into that metadata?

Not that I'm supporting CODEX because I have zero experience with it, but it appears to be on an entirely different level than CRL...so what they are doing makes sense?
 
I guess if you are the brave type and like to dump high sums of money in obscure things. Did anybody actually buy the original C700? Why do they feel they need another one?
 
Sttratos said:
I guess if you are the brave type and like to dump high sums of money in obscure things. Did anybody actually buy the original C700? Why do they feel they need another one?
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Canon's one weakness is that they're extremely slow on their feet, things are in the pipeline for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if this had been planned for a long time, and finally come out now. It's not a bad move, if you're trying to save the C700, but it's not a great move either.
 
IanTheM said:
Canon's one weakness is that they're extremely slow on their feet, things are in the pipeline for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if this had been planned for a long time, and finally come out now. It's not a bad move, if you're trying to save the C700, but it's not a great move either.
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It will be great for people wanting to get into FF in 5 years when they are selling on ebay for $7000.
 
I don't understand the negativity.

The price is great (i.e. cheaper than literally all of the other options, a first for Canon). The body only weighs 3.5kg. The feature-set and ergonomics of the camera are competitive and look to be well setup.

If you don't need raw, you save extra space and weight (ala F55/F5/Varicam)

And it's being released at the same time as all of the other cameras, so you can hardly claim it's late to the party. Arri LFs, Red Monstros and Sony Venices are all only just starting to reach rental houses.

I think it's quite appealing.
 
Grug said:
I don't understand the negativity.

The price is great (i.e. cheaper than literally all of the other options, a first for Canon). The body only weighs 3.5kg. The feature-set and ergonomics of the camera are competitive and look to be well setup.

If you don't need raw, you save extra space and weight (ala F55/F5/Varicam)

And it's being released at the same time as all of the other cameras, so you can hardly claim it's late to the party. Arri LFs, Red Monstros and Sony Venices are all only just starting to reach rental houses.

I think it's quite appealing.
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So buy one Grug. :)

Trade your Alexa in ;-)
 
OK, guess I had it wrong.

Codex recorder $6995
2TB Drive $6980
1TB Drive $5350
Dock $5750

So around an additional $20K on top of the camera price of $33K
 
It's (Codex) the same money if you use a Alexa or a Varicam.....so I don't see what the issue is. If you want RAW recording on these cameras, that what the preferred recording choice.
 
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