buying from the first batch

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vuzz

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I am about to put down a deposit for the HVX and I was wondering about the first batch. Are cameras like cars in that the first run usually has more problems. Did the first batch DVXs have any problems. I'm just looking at stuff like the new iPod Nano and a good bunch are reported to have easy to scratch screens. I just never bought something before it came out. The only reason I am is because I have jobs that I could use it on ASAP. Anyway any feedback?

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First batch of DVXs has the 2 frame audio sync issue. I've been using mine for almost 2 years now and that's the only issue I've had to deal with (fixed by simply delaying my audio by 2 frames when I capture into the NLE).
 
I bought what I think was the third DVX in Canada.

Never had any issues at all. The DVX was as solid as the DVCPRO unit I had just sold to pay for the DVX!
 
I just do not want one made first thing in the morning on Monday or last thing in the afternoon on Friday. :evil:
 
vuzz said:
Are cameras like cars in that the first run usually has more problems.
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I don't know about "usually" -- I had my first DVX in March of 2003 and never had any problems with it. But obviously, common sense dictates that if there ARE any problems, they'll be more likely to manifest in the first units that are released. Then again, that's what the warranty's for too -- if problems are discovered they should be fixed.

The only reason I am is because I have jobs that I could use it on ASAP. Anyway any feedback?
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If you've got jobs, get it and do the jobs and get paid for 'em. These cameras are so cheap that they can pay for themselves so quickly, that it really doesn't make much sense to wait (if you've got the work waiting for you). If you don't have jobs, why rush to get it? If you've got the jobs waiting for you, why wait?
 
Frame said:
Maybe they will release an "A" versuin half a year later?
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Who knows if they will or won't -- but half a year seems optimistic. The DVX100A came out 14 months after the original DVX100. And the DVX100B isn't going to be released until around 23 months after the DVX100A was released.

And that's a really fast update schedule. The Canon XL1s took three years to come out after the original XL1; and the XL2 wasn't released until three years after the XL1s. And the PD170 didn't hit the market until around two and a half or three years after the PD150.

So I sure wouldn't expect an "A" update as quickly as six months! Maybe more like 18 months, who knows. But if you're putting the camera to work, it could pay for itself several times over by the time an HVX200A eventually hits the shelves.
 
There's always something better down the line in the technical world, that's why we call it progress.

The question isn't "when should buy", but rather, "when do you need one". Wait until you are sure you need one, then buy the best one available at that time.
 
OK, so I'm ready to buy an HD camera, and starting do the research, starting with these forums, which are great by the way. And was pretty clear on going HDV until I stopped by RESfest on Friday. Saw the hvx and now not so sure. Anybody having the same doubts?
Of course cost is an issue but more concerned about image quality.
 
Grip_n_Rip said:
Of course cost is an issue but more concerned about image quality.
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You have to decide if the P2 workflow is right for you, but the HVX will definitely offer better quality overall (as far as data compression is concerned) than the HDV cameras. Of course, nothing is set in stone... we still have to wait for all of the cameras to be released and do a side-by-side (by-side-by-side!) test to really quantify performance. That being said, the HVX offers more color resolution than any of the competing cameras, progressive shooting in 1080 resolution, and less compression than HDV, which makes it a very strong option. The footage that's been shown at RESFest looks extremely noise-free and full of latitude, so that's another big plus. Unfortunately, we still have to wait two months to find out for sure. (Of course, they've had years since they first announced a "handheld P2 cam" to figure these things out, so hopefully they'll be getting most of it right...)
 
I had an early version of the JVC DV500, which, a few years ago, was the flavor of the month in the DV world. early versions had a head clog issue--it was actually a software issue. speaking of JVC, there's the latest JVC, what a disaster it's turned out to be...
 
Icarus2005 said:
There's always something better down the line in the technical world, that's why we call it progress.

The question isn't "when should buy", but rather, "when do you need one". Wait until you are sure you need one, then buy the best one available at that time.
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Hehehe. I know a friend of a friend who still doesn't own a computer, despite being able to afford it many times over. Every day he makes a tedious trip to the public library to send e-mails, surf the Web, etc. Why? Well, because something better is always coming out, and why should he buy anything when there's always something better coming out? Oddly, he doesn't apply this thinking to automobiles or anything else. Just computers.
 
vuzz said:
Are cameras like cars in that the first run usually has more problems. Did the first batch DVXs have any problems.
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I bought my DVX100A in July of last year, a late purchase for that cam. It had bad pixels in the LCD monitor. Just goes to show you can get problems anywhere in a production run.
 
steindj said:
Hehehe. I know a friend of a friend who still doesn't own a computer, despite being able to afford it many times over. Every day he makes a tedious trip to the public library to send e-mails, surf the Web, etc. Why? Well, because something better is always coming out, and why should he buy anything when there's always something better coming out? Oddly, he doesn't apply this thinking to automobiles or anything else. Just computers.
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that's rather odd because i would imagine that computers at the library are far from the latest and greatest. can anyone say pentium 3?
 
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