Burning a HD DVD - how do I do that??

Deuceofspades

Deuceofspades

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Howdie,

I need to find out how to go about burning a HD DVD. Help please :)...

Am I correct to assume that if I burn a DVD with my PC DVD burner it will NOT be HD, but rather SD? :undecided And if so then how does one go about burning HD.

Thanks you guys,
 
If you own a Sony PS3 and an HDTV, you can use Vegas Pro 8b to burn quick 30 minute blu-ray HD right to a standard DVD and have it play back on your PS3.

All you need is standard DVD-R and a regular old DVD burner.

On 8b, when you're done your edit, select the "tools" drop down menu item and select "Burn Disc" then select "Blu-Ray Disc".

From there, select your format, AVC, or MPEG2. Note: the MPEG2 format has the 1920x1080 24P option.

Also, change the audio format to Dolby Digital. Don't use the .w64 audio option. It has an issue on some computers.

When you put the DVD in the PS3, you will have to start the movie manually. Locate the Stream subdirectory. The movie can be executed from there.
 
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Stevet said:
If you own a Sony PS3 and an HDTV, you can use Vegas Pro 8b to burn quick 30 minute blu-ray HD right to a standard DVD and have it play back on your PS3.

All you need is standard DVD-R and a regular old DVD burner.

On 8b, when you're done your edit, select the "tools" drop down menu item and select "Burn Disc" then select "Blu-Ray Disc".

From there, select your format, AVC, or MPEG2. Note: the MPEG2 format has the 1920x1080 24P option.

Also, change the audio format to Dolby Digital. Don't use the .w64 audio option. It has an issue on some computers.

When you put the DVD in the PS3, you will have to start the movie manually. Locate the Stream subdirectory. The movie can be executed from there.
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Ok, so let me see if I got this right:

1. I do NOT need a blue ray burner to burn a blue ray HD DVD?
2. if I select "Blue Ray" in vegas options, a regular DVD burner will burn a HD version?
3. Will a 35 min film fit on a DVD that way?

Last but not least, the DVD is not for me, it is for someone from the industry who intends to possibly play it on a bigger screen, he must have HD DVD player etc since he is requesting me to provide a HD DVD for him. Hence my post.

So then I should be good to go?

Which format should I pick? AVC, or MPEG2? I have no clue.

I work with mxf files filmed in 720-24p and my timeline is 24p. So which should I pick? Sorry for being such a rookie, but hey, I am learning FAST :tongue:
 
1. I do NOT need a blue ray burner to burn a blue ray HD DVD?

No you do not, but the blu-ray HD discs will only play back on the Sony PS3.
Use standard DVDs using your standard DVD burner.
This makes a great way to quickly check what it will look like on an HD set.

2. if I select "Blue Ray" in vegas options, a regular DVD burner will burn a HD version?

Yes, that's correct.

3. Will a 35 min film fit on a DVD that way?
Maybe.... It will be close.

What resolution is your project? 1920x1080 1:1 pixel, or 1440x900 1:3 pixel?

Last but not least, the DVD is not for me, it is for someone from the industry who intends to possibly play it on a bigger screen, he must have HD DVD player etc since he is requesting me to provide a HD DVD for him. Hence my post.

Hmm... Did he ask for HD-DVD, Or Blu-ray?
Also, the above method ONLY works on the Sony PS3 and it will not auto play. You have to manually select the file in the stream sub directory.

So then I should be good to go?

Which format should I pick? AVC, or MPEG2? I have no clue.

If you shot 1440x900 1.3: You could go with the AVC. I happened to see the bitrate was at 15mbps. You're more apt to fit more on the DVD.

If you shot at 1920x1080 1:1. (i'm assuming 24P) Select the 1920x1080 24P template. Actually you can pull these templates up under render and make small adjustments. I created a mpeg2 20mbps min/ 35mbps avg 38mbps max template
2X VBR and it worked great with the PS3.

I work with mxf files filmed in 720-24p and my timeline is 24p. So which should I pick? Sorry for being such a rookie, but hey, I am learning FAST :tongue:

Woops.. I see you're using 720P. I do not see a blu-ray template for 720P.
I suggest pulling the mpeg2 blu-ray template and setting it to high quality, and changing it to 1280x720 and saving it under a new name.

If that one does not work, try it with one of the AVC templates.

Now, instead of wasting your time, just select a small region of your footage and go to tools>Burn Disc>Blu-Ray Disc and select your new 720 mpeg2 format and select dolby digital for the audio format. Drop a DVD in and you're off.

Now of course you will need a PS3 and an HDTV.

Let me know what's up.

Well, If you're producer wants the HD-DVD. I believe it's pretty much known now that HD-DVD is done. Stores are selling out of all of it. Blu-ray won.

You will eventually have to buy a blu-ray burner to make compatible discs amongst the different players. Even now, I question the compatability, but it should improve soon.
 
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Deuceofspades said:
Last but not least, the DVD is not for me, it is for someone from the industry who intends to possibly play it on a bigger screen, he must have HD DVD player etc since he is requesting me to provide a HD DVD for him. Hence my post.
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It is interesting that someone in the industry would asked you for an HD DVD because there are no consumer HD DVD burners available. None, nada, not a one. They never came out on the market. So no one outside of a duplicator can create an HD DVD and I don't know of any duplicators that will press just one disc.

The best you can do is use a regular DVD and format it with HD DVD content. You will need a program like Ulead DVD Movie Factory 6 Plus. I have use this to make HD DVD compliant DVD's and it works pretty well. They play back fine on my Toshiba HD-D2 HD DVD player. Unfortunately, I don't know if it will play back on all HD DVD players but most newer ones should work.

So just to recap:
  1. Get Ulead Movie Factory 6 Plus
  2. Render HDV M2T file from Vegas
  3. Drop in a Ulead DVDMF HD DVD Project
  4. Burn to a regular DVD or DL-DVD
You can get about 30 minutes of HDV on a regular DVD. You can lower the bitrate to get more because HD DVD uses a lower bitrate (18Kbps) then the M2T files (25Kbps) you are probably using as your source. Ulead DVDMF 6 has a 30-day free trial that you can use to test this out so you have nothing to loose.

Deuceofspades said:
I work with mxf files filmed in 720-24p and my timeline is 24p. So which should I pick? Sorry for being such a rookie, but hey, I am learning FAST
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I just checked and DVD Movie Factory does not have a 720p template for HD DVD. Just 1080i so you may have to use a 1080i template. There just aren't many solutions for making HD DVD's and since the format has been withdrawn by Toshiba, there isn't anything more coming.

~jr
 
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I guess they will only need about 10 min of footage so I should be OK on DVD space. I have emailed the person to ask for more details, and since he is with SONY, then I assume they will have the Sony player? :).. I askde him to give me specific instruction as to how to prepare that HD DVD he is asking for, I await his answer and will let you guys know what he meant exactely.
 
Deuceofspades said:
... and since he is with SONY, then I assume they will have the Sony player?
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Highly doubtful since Sony doesn't make HD DVD players. Sony only makes Blu-ray players. Blu-ray and HD DVD are two different formats. I think you need to double check *exactly* what kind of disc he expects from you. Could it be that he "generically" asked for a high definition DVD meaning a DVD that contains high definition footage and not necessarily the now defunct "HD DVD" format?

~jr
 
JohnnyRoy said:
Highly doubtful since Sony doesn't make HD DVD players. Sony only makes Blu-ray players. Blu-ray and HD DVD are two different formats. I think you need to double check *exactly* what kind of disc he expects from you. Could it be that he "generically" asked for a high definition DVD meaning a DVD that contains high definition footage and not necessarily the now defunct "HD DVD" format?

~jr
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yes, quite possibly, I await his answer...
 
Stevet said:
1. I do NOT need a blue ray burner to burn a blue ray HD DVD?

No you do not, but the blu-ray HD discs will only play back on the Sony PS3.
Use standard DVDs using your standard DVD burner.
This makes a great way to quickly check what it will look like on an HD set.

2. if I select "Blue Ray" in vegas options, a regular DVD burner will burn a HD version?

Yes, that's correct.

3. Will a 35 min film fit on a DVD that way?
Maybe.... It will be close.

What resolution is your project? 1920x1080 1:1 pixel, or 1440x900 1:3 pixel?

Last but not least, the DVD is not for me, it is for someone from the industry who intends to possibly play it on a bigger screen, he must have HD DVD player etc since he is requesting me to provide a HD DVD for him. Hence my post.

Hmm... Did he ask for HD-DVD, Or Blu-ray?
Also, the above method ONLY works on the Sony PS3 and it will not auto play. You have to manually select the file in the stream sub directory.

So then I should be good to go?

Which format should I pick? AVC, or MPEG2? I have no clue.

If you shot 1440x900 1.3: You could go with the AVC. I happened to see the bitrate was at 15mbps. You're more apt to fit more on the DVD.

If you shot at 1920x1080 1:1. (i'm assuming 24P) Select the 1920x1080 24P template. Actually you can pull these templates up under render and make small adjustments. I created a mpeg2 20mbps min/ 35mbps avg 38mbps max template
2X VBR and it worked great with the PS3.

I work with mxf files filmed in 720-24p and my timeline is 24p. So which should I pick? Sorry for being such a rookie, but hey, I am learning FAST :tongue:

Woops.. I see you're using 720P. I do not see a blu-ray template for 720P.
I suggest pulling the mpeg2 blu-ray template and setting it to high quality, and changing it to 1280x720 and saving it under a new name.

If that one does not work, try it with one of the AVC templates.

Now, instead of wasting your time, just select a small region of your footage and go to tools>Burn Disc>Blu-Ray Disc and select your new 720 mpeg2 format and select dolby digital for the audio format. Drop a DVD in and you're off.

Now of course you will need a PS3 and an HDTV.

Let me know what's up.

Well, If you're producer wants the HD-DVD. I believe it's pretty much known now that HD-DVD is done. Stores are selling out of all of it. Blu-ray won.

You will eventually have to buy a blu-ray burner to make compatible discs amongst the different players. Even now, I question the compatability, but it should improve soon.
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I heard back, he meant BLUE RAY disc. i can already tell using any of the 60i templates will not work (artifacts), so I am going to try your suggestion as soon as I go home today.

I did burn a DVD this morning using the MPEG template with the 24p and 8 rate (as opposed to the 25 rate which gave me problems), but I can tell the file is too small to be true, I am sure it is no better than my SD DVD, it is of the same size! :huh: Has any of you burnt with that rate and did it look high definition or more like SD?

Darn, I was up ALL NIGHT trying to get this done, I have a dealine... what a mess...

thanks for your help, you guys...
 
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