Blue-ray For 260.00 Us

I'll wait til I can get a BR burner for the tower. I'm guessing its only a matter of (short) time until the consumer market drops rapidly for players, now that HDDVD is out of the picture. I'm in no hurry.
 
Dick Campbell said:
I'll wait til I can get a BR burner for the tower. I'm guessing its only a matter of (short) time until the consumer market drops rapidly for players, now that HDDVD is out of the picture. I'm in no hurry.
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This makes little sense... when in history has a *lack* of competition brought about lower prices for the end consumer?
 
Barry_Green said:
This makes little sense... when in history has a *lack* of competition brought about lower prices for the end consumer?
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Very very true.
But we're talking about a format, not a specific product here.
Competition amongst formats seems to cause confusion and a lack of confidence in the marketplace. People and companies wind up unsure what to commit to if there is not a critical mass towards one technology.

It could be now that we have a clear 'standard' that more manufacturers will jump into BluRay with confidence ... giving us more options of players/burners... creating more competition... and thus lowering prices for the end consumer.

Then again, I'm not an economist by any stretch.
 
My testing of blu ray encoding in both Encore and Toast 9 using h.264 sources with DVCProHD footage indicates that blu ray isn't ready for prime time -- at least with the Main Concept encoder that is used with these apps on a Mac.

Same footage on a blu ray compared to a Toshiba HD DVD - Toshiba HD DVD is clearly superior

too bad.

If I can find another encoder that will produce blu ray h.264 encodes, great, but Encore doesn't allow them
 
Also note that the OP's reference isn't for a blu ray burner or a HD DVD burner.

All it does is READ blu ray and HD DVD. And you need software to view titles.
 
My buddy was in Fry's a couple of days ago and found the Pioneer internal

blueray burner for $199.00 which is the lowest I've seen. I'm going to go

look at it today and see if its normal pricing or was on sale. He said they

had a Sony external for $329.00.
 
Make absolutely certain that Pioneer is a burner, not a player.

The cheapest Pioneer I've seen that burns is $675.00

The cheapest Pioneer player is $199.00
 
I had inquired about burning Blu-Ray screeners, and was told that the latest Blu-Ray firmware had actually removed the ability for most machines to play consumer burned discs. Is this true?
 
Barry_Green said:
This makes little sense... when in history has a *lack* of competition brought about lower prices for the end consumer?
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Well, my only thought was - if the Studios want people to buy their BR disks, then we're going to have to have something to play them on. And people aren't going to pay +$500 for a player when they can buy an up-converting player pretty cheap for their HDTV.

In which case, we all just keep buying SD DVDs, and the whole HD disk war was just an exercise in futility, and nobody wins.
 
In which case, we all just keep buying SD DVDs, and the whole HD disk war was just an exercise in futility, and nobody wins.
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That's exactly what it was, and we (the customer) are just going to laugh at them while we download high-def videos legally for free from hulu.

Or, the Chinese will arrive with their own version of a high-def red-laser DVD, and the players will be $50 and the replication costs will be the same as we already enjoy ($1 per disc, replicated), and we will again laugh at the greedy blu-ray coalition.

Either way, the end consumer wins, and the DRM-ridden grossly overpriced blu-ray optical disc dies.
 
I did a post on how disappointed I was with blu ray output over in HVX200 workflow.

It's not ready for prime time in my view.
 
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