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Just spoke to cvp and they have the first Pr order with birger but they alluded I shouldn't hold my breath for the 21st:(
 
I asked Birger for an update, and I got one.

We should have an update out soon to the "general news" list. But in the interim, please feel free to pass on this information.

We are in the process of getting our dealer network set up, and getting a model that works across the various markets that we sell into, took more time and debate than we expected. Traditionally we sold direct, but the quickly growing popularity of this product dictated that we work through resellers. We think the model that we have come up with is going to make it easy for customers to buy the product, and to do so from the same dealers selling the cameras.

We are going to do a phased release of the product, and we will need to update the ship date of the product on the web site. We are going to need to make sure that our dealers are able to support the product, and that we have sufficient support and testing prior to a mass release. Last thing we want to do is issue a software update just as volume is getting into the pipeline.

Right now, it is looking like friends and family and dealers will have access to production units (first articles, not for resale) early March, with a large scale release around the time of NAB. These dates should all be taken as plus or minus a couple of weeks. Anybody that is wondering about the friends and family phase, needn't. If we don't already know you, you aren't on the list.

We won't be participating in a group buy. It is core to Birger's distribution and pricing model that customers have local access to the product, and local support. A group buy is contrary to this end, as it risks taking a sale away from a local reseller for no reason other than a small discount.

Thanks for the great questions, and the continued interest.
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So - no, it won't be shipping in February. That's disappointing, but ... at least now we know.

Demo models for feedback should be hitting testers and resellers in March, but those are not for sale. Sounds like those units are mostly for testing and fixing, prior to the general release to the public. Looks like those on the early list are going to be getting units early, in exchange for pledging to test them and provide feedback so that the product works when it's released in April. And, before anyone asks, he's already said that they have enough people on that list, so no need for volunteers. I presume those first units are going to be hand-crafted and therefore their production capacity on those would be quite limited, sounds like the same kind of launch Red is doing for the Epic.

And their reasoning on not doing a group buy makes sense -- they have dealers for that. We'll just have to ask one of their dealers to do a group buy for us. Birger can't sell to dealers and then undercut the dealers by selling to us directly, but a dealer could make a group buy. I don't know who their distribution network in the USA is going to include, but if any of our DVXUser Sponsor dealers are on that list, we can probably approach them about doing a group buy.

So -- no Birger adapter on Feb. 14th, the new date is targeted for about mid-April.
 
Barry_Green said:
I asked Birger for an update, and I got one.



So - no, it won't be shipping in February. That's disappointing, but ... at least now we know.

Demo models for feedback should be hitting testers and resellers in March, but those are not for sale. Sounds like those units are mostly for testing and fixing, prior to the general release to the public. Looks like those on the early list are going to be getting units early, in exchange for pledging to test them and provide feedback so that the product works when it's released in April. And, before anyone asks, he's already said that they have enough people on that list, so no need for volunteers. I presume those first units are going to be hand-crafted and therefore their production capacity on those would be quite limited, sounds like the same kind of launch Red is doing for the Epic.

And their reasoning on not doing a group buy makes sense -- they have dealers for that. We'll just have to ask one of their dealers to do a group buy for us. Birger can't sell to dealers and then undercut the dealers by selling to us directly, but a dealer could make a group buy. I don't know who their distribution network in the USA is going to include, but if any of our DVXUser Sponsor dealers are on that list, we can probably approach them about doing a group buy.

So -- no Birger adapter on Feb. 14th, the new date is targeted for about mid-April.
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That changes the game for a lot of us!
 
Yeah, that's too bad :( I'll just have to rework my priorities then for the next few months and hope we really see something April time frame. Hehe, I have 2 lenses with aperture control, a 50 and an 85, maybe I'll just take that as a challenge to just use them on the next project (since it is a for fun project).
 
Thanks for the update Barry.

It seems like everyone's pessimism about the February 14, 2011 date was justified.

Darn! That is too bad.

So the $700 price from their website still stands? Or is that changing too?

Simon
 
Kipon is jumping for joy. Something, regardless of flaws, is better to some people than nothing at all. I'll just use my Nikon primes for now.
 
Brian@202020 said:
Kipon is jumping for joy. Something, regardless of flaws, is better to some people than nothing at all. I'll just use my Nikon primes for now.
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Yep, and there goes the price of manual glass on eBay. Oh well, Kipon + plain/donut adapters + ND filters + FF will have to do for now. Not sure what I'll miss most, the electronic focus, or IS.
 
Dang, that really stinks because I was planning on buying a bunch of canon L glass to go with the birger...now that has to be put off for 2 more months. I don't know if anyone else is in a similar boat, but the window of opportunity for many of these products may be lost because of this sort of thing. I agree its better to have a finished solid product ready to get out there, but Canon and birger may lose my business since I may have to get a lens system in place much sooner than two months...whatever I end up going with is what I'll be stuck with for a while so need to make it count. Very disappointing.
 
mkfotos.com said:
...and holy crap why won't they adapt/make an aperture control interface for the AF100, a-la LiveLens?

http://store.redrockmicro.com/Catal...iveLens-active-lens-mount-for-Canon-EF-lenses

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This was mentioned on another thread and I thought it to be relevant here so I moved it here.
 
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