BIG PROBLEM - HVX IMAGE SHIFT - anyone else?

I think the OIS is pretty good for what it is.
Hand hold and zoom in on something distant, switch the OIS on and off and you can clearly see the difference.
Don't expent so much from an OIS, its not a steadycam replacement or anything!
Oh and of course, don't use it on a tripod.
 
I have to agree with Ash. Having owned the HVX200 the image stabilization is barely passable to me. When compared to shooting using my old XL2 and manual lens with no OIS available, the HVX still looks shakier. Not saying it doesn't help but it really is weaker than other cameras at this price point.

Which furthers makes that funky leap in the footage more odd.......
 
icicle22 said:
When compared to shooting using my old XL2 and manual lens with no OIS available quote]

Sounds like you are missing something there then.
I can't say it's better then other cameras, but worse then "No OIS" ???

I did some shooting while skating backwards holding the camera below my knees with and without the OIS and it definately was better WITH OIS. Maybe yours is broken???
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OIS helps but it is a marginal improvement at best, especially with the lens long... maybe a compromise to let more light in as the HVX loves light =o)




ash =o)
 
Today I filmed a huge gig, and some really horrendous stuff happened. I'm just saying, what was seen in this clip is really nothing compared to what I experienced today. I will post clips as soon as I've started cutting the stuff. This image abnormality seemed to occur about every 5th minute. Looks like the IS "hangs" and then "releases" because there often comes two abnormalities in a row.

And forget about it's the tripod's fault. I have it happening all the time when handheld too.

And IS is very nice to have when shooting from a tripod. Like today, people were moving around the tripod, so the ground was unstable. If I hadn't used IS, the video picture would be really jumpy (now it only jumps every 5th minute, like previously noted :)).

But all in all, it's not a huge problem. Nothing's perfect, no matter how much we want it to.
 
Sorry, periodic jumping of the image to the extent seen in the original clip (or worse, as in your case) is not acceptable and should not be written off as normal. There are plenty of things people film where no second takes or reshoots are possible.

If this happens routinely, Panasonic needs to investigate and fix this problem.
 
i just did a shoot about 20 minutes ago where i had an image jump on a panning tripod shot a couple times in a row. this also happened a couple of days ago and i ended up fixing it by deleting 2 frames. today i didn't know if it would help or not but i turned off the ois and it was smooth as butter. then i saw this thread. the movie i'm working on right now is almost all fig rig with a few tripod shots. should i have the ois off for fig rig stuff as well?
 
I won't have my HVX200 until next week so I don't know if this is a common problem. The only advice I can give you would be to put the setup you will be using through its paces BEFORE the shoot so you can see if it is affected, and so that you can have confidence in your gear.
 
Hi, I'm new to the forum and P2 but have had the same problem with jolts in my shots. Will this be a firmware update required?
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This is only happening in 576i 25p and while panning on moving subjects.
Other than that it is the best digital format I've worked with.
Having shot many years on XL1's, Pd150/70's and owned a DVX100a.
Looking forward to getting the bugs out.
 
Hey Ursa,

in which mode did you shoot-576i?
Would be interesting to know if it occurs only when you shoot dv.
I mostly shot dvcpro 50 and...knock knock knock...havent seen any problems like that on the footage..would make me crazy, i think thats no way ok in a way ursa!
 
Hey DeadMike,

I shot about 30mins of footage this weekend with the HVX on a fig rig, OIS was on. I've played it back and haven't seen any jumping around. However, I have noticed jumps previously when the camera has been panning on the tripod (never had the jump whilst static). I'd just also like to say that I have experienced similar issues with Sony cameras, its a inherent design issue I believe and it wont happen if you turn of the OIS.
 
NZHDTV,

This is not a format issue. AFAIK its the optical image stabiliser 'correcting' motion. Its all about prisms in suspension or somesuch and so don't expect any updates to fix it. OIS is working the way its supposed to but you aren't using it properly.

Maybe someone with a better knowledge of OIS can confirm this?
 
I've seen the problem in both 576i and 576P. The clip in the first post of this thread was shot in 720P, so I guess the problem is all over the line... I'll try shooting some dvcpro50 too.
 
I had this problem with the dvx100a. The HVX has it too. Turning OIS off does solve the problem.
 
The shift that has been noticed with image stabilization on but camera static is well-known in stills photography. How noticeable it is depends on how the stabilization works and what the 'rest' position of the shift optics is. One of member noticed that the effect occurred every 5 minutes or so. The default power-off time for the camera is, wait for it, 5 mins. That is not a coincidence. Seems to me that the shift is caused by the cage holding the stabilizing elements coming to a rest - it's that clunking sound we know but don't particularly love. Anyway, turning off OIS when you don't need it saves battery juice - more than you might think. I haven't quantified it, but I can do longer time-lapse sequences with it off than on.
 
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