Better EVF maybe?

[Neil Johnson]

Now try putting the eyepiece up against the EVF without attaching it and rotating it (when the Camera is on) - does the same thing, screen goes black at one point. Note there are arrows on the eyepiece and EVF to indicate which angle to put it back on at (there's 3 possibilities), though these arrows don't really line up, putting the eyepiece back on at the wrong rotation, or already having it on at the wrong rotation may cause some distortion?

 

[Shooter]

Shooter just took a look at what youre talking about. Certainly if that wasnt seated properly it would have some ill effect.

I think that it could / did have an optical effect by fact that it is so flexible ( like a wratten) and also is kind of a loose fit in the mount.

 

[Bern Caughey]

I have the Cineroid, and any who have read those posts know that I've had some problems... mechanical ones...

However, when it works (it is working now) it is really a huge improvement.

I use a Cineroid regularly, & love the big view. Cineroid has never stated it's perfect, & have been very helpful whenever I've had issues. I hope they come out with a higher end version & would be willing to spend much more on a really great SDI option.

In the meantime I've ordered a Zacuto to test out. I eventually need two EVFs & will probably test all the options as they become available. Just wish Marshall would tackle this need. Or maybe an OEM EVF from Panasonic.

Regards,
Bern

 

[Postfade]

I have the Cineroid EVF and it is very good. The pixel mapping switch does what we all wish the AF100 was capable of doing- showing you a section of the image for more accurate focusing. It also has 'zebras' and 'peaking', however it's a great shame that you can't have both visible at the same time! I'd love to know when I'm clipping my highlights with the zebras and am accurately focused with the peaking.
The camera HDMI does output the AF100's zebras, peaking or waveform so you have to view those on the LCD or camera EVF. So many screens to watch at once!

Do beware of that image magnifier on all EVF's though....as I've already burnt pit marks on the plastic surround and on quite a few areas of the screen on the first time out with my Cineroid! It's so easy to get even moderate sun (April in the UK!) into an upward pointing EVF and find that the magnifing glass has picked up that sunlight and burnt your screen or surround. It's best I guess to flip the magnifier to the 'open position' , therefore revealing the LCD as soon as you leave the camera standing. That way the magnifier won't be able to concentrate the sunlight and ruin your EVF.

David Taylor

 

[danap]

Concerning the EVF plastic lens: Perhaps the plasticky things in the AF100 EVF are a kind of polarizing protection (sacrificing 1-2 stops of light) for the sun rays to avoid burning the tiny LCD at the end of the tunnel.


OSD thru HDMI: So the next firmware revision by Panasonic or hack should output zebra, peaking and the holy waveform monitor thru the HDMI port.

 

[Neil Johnson]

Did the last 2 posts late last night when I wasn't very on the ball and thinking this through.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is a Polarising Filter in the eyepiece of the EVF.

Shooter Spot Metered his at about 2 Stops he says, I got about the same, which would hold with a Pola.

I'm thinking it's in there to cut out reflections (and ghosting, etc.) between the elements in the EVF and glare of the screen.

So, Shooter, you could 'Pop it out' if you like, that would give you a brighter EVF and get rid of the distortions from the filter - the trade off however would be possible glare off the screen and reflections back and forth between the elements in the EVF - I'm sure they put it in there for a very good reason.

If you do take it out, I think you may have problems, or loose it's effectiveness if you do not put it back in at the same angle/rotation.

If you recon it's plastic or gel (I didn't examine it that closely), which would distort with temperature changes, etc., flimsiness, that seems a bit cheap, i.e., why didn't they use a solid one.