Better Cinema Look - EX1 or HVX200?
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Mouayed Zabtia
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Prodigt that’s really nice answer, your they best
ESTEBEVERDE
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My 2 cents,
Just picked up a EX for event work. I haven't had much of a chance to play with the settings, but out of the box I prefer the HVX in terms of the "cinema" look..
Sony has always looked liked hard edge video to me and the EX has that Sony look. Unfortunately, I do not make cash by shooting Feature films with the HVX.
The work I get lends itself more to the strengths of the EX.
If you make money by shooting under controlled light and can afford P2 and prefer a more cinema look and feel- stick with HVX otherwise go with the EX-
It should prove to be a good work horse video cam.
As I said- I still need to adjust settings- so if anyone has any suggestions....?
Just picked up a EX for event work. I haven't had much of a chance to play with the settings, but out of the box I prefer the HVX in terms of the "cinema" look..
Sony has always looked liked hard edge video to me and the EX has that Sony look. Unfortunately, I do not make cash by shooting Feature films with the HVX.
The work I get lends itself more to the strengths of the EX.
If you make money by shooting under controlled light and can afford P2 and prefer a more cinema look and feel- stick with HVX otherwise go with the EX-
It should prove to be a good work horse video cam.
As I said- I still need to adjust settings- so if anyone has any suggestions....?
Stevet
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Congrats Bokes!
You'll find the EX1 has a wealth of pro picture adjustments. In fact, it offers the same flexibility as their higher end F350 model.
You can experiment with their Cine3 and Cine4 gamma curves.
Here's a Sony site that mentions a few settings:http://www.sony.co.uk/biz/view/ShowContent.action?site=biz_en_GB&contentId=1193315622112
I wish thier sample footage was not so dang small!
You'll find the EX1 has a wealth of pro picture adjustments. In fact, it offers the same flexibility as their higher end F350 model.
You can experiment with their Cine3 and Cine4 gamma curves.
Here's a Sony site that mentions a few settings:http://www.sony.co.uk/biz/view/ShowContent.action?site=biz_en_GB&contentId=1193315622112
I wish thier sample footage was not so dang small!
As a DP i must say.... if given the option of shooting on Film or Red, i'd take film in a hearbeat. I have never felt a thrill like watching my first real dalies in the screening room in Du-art, in NY........ So pristine, and natural looking. its Gorgeous. event the one shot where i forgot to put in the .3 ND filter, though over exposed, still looked good..... Its amazing.
Stevet
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heres my digital/film analogy.
digital is a luxury gps guided fully powered yacht. it gets you from port to port quickly and with much style. plus it has a steering wheel and anyone can pilot it.
film is a sail boat. it still gets from port to port, but its a little slower, you need skill and a small crew to pilot it, and keep it running smooth. but its looks beautiful, gracefull and elegant. also commanding and operating the ship itself is half the fun.
digital is a luxury gps guided fully powered yacht. it gets you from port to port quickly and with much style. plus it has a steering wheel and anyone can pilot it.
film is a sail boat. it still gets from port to port, but its a little slower, you need skill and a small crew to pilot it, and keep it running smooth. but its looks beautiful, gracefull and elegant. also commanding and operating the ship itself is half the fun.
Hahaha I like that.
Ian-T
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I had to chime in here...that was nice.
Ya know. I think we really work too hard at the technology these days. Too much consumerism is creeping into the field and it tends to distract us from the real goals of making a movie - telling a story.
I think the smaller hd cams are a terrific boon to the indie world but, debating this cam -vs- another is pretty pointless to the overall process of telling a story. Either of these cams will work just fine. Getting a good script and crew to go along with it is much more important.
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I think the smaller hd cams are a terrific boon to the indie world but, debating this cam -vs- another is pretty pointless to the overall process of telling a story. Either of these cams will work just fine. Getting a good script and crew to go along with it is much more important.
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Barry_Green
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Which is why, even though I haven't used 'em in a few years, I still have a closet full of film cameras...
So when are we making that short ends film?
Barry_Green
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Gimme a script... how 'bout you and Jack come up with a brilliant LoveFest film, and drive on down here and we'll shoot it on 35mm. Gotta be MOS though, or all ADR...
I cant write.... i cant even spell. thats on JAck.....
ESTEBEVERDE
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I saw grindhouse last night and wow.... the filmed half looked superb even with the fake degradation thrown in.
There was just something about it.
I was struck with how beautiful film is.
There was just something about it.
I was struck with how beautiful film is.
ESTEBEVERDE
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Wow....
Those are HUGE HUGE WORDS...
Personally I DO think Digital Film (Video) will catch up and indeed surpass Emulsion Film (Film
) in the very near future. When, maybe a year, maybe 2 years, maybe 10 years, but it will most definitely happen.
But as of today. You are absolutely correct in that well done film has a very ascetically pleasing smoothness about it.
KyleProhaska
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I agree that digital will always be an emulation of film, no matter how large the pixel frame sizes get BUT there is a limit to how much your eye can really see anyways. Digital will never BE film, thats a given but I think its now hit a point where it can be easily mistaken for film...lots of things on this forum being an example.
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