Best Slomo Settings

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Cody1

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Hi,
I'm new to the thread and am trying to get some input on the best settings foe an HVX 200 in slomo. Most posts say 720/24pn is the best, But I have found a stutter feeling to it when I pan. I was wondering if anyone else has seen this, if so is there a way around it? Also would it be better to go to 1080/60i and change the frame rate and shutter settings there, if yes which is the best combo?

Any input would be appreciated.
 
I like to use the highest frame rate the hvx will support and then slow it down in post. If you go half speed, 30 fps becomes 15fps which we all know is jumpy. 24fps will be even worse. For true slow mo you need a high speed camera. (like watch a bullet enter its target slow mo.) i would think the best slowmo would be 720 60p. With 60 full frames you can slow it down half way and still have a great frame rate. You can also use under and over cranking in the cam to do slow mo. unfortunately this leave little room for error. Doing it in post allows you to play with it a lot more.
 
not a hvx owner, but I agree w/ RVE. The higher the framerate, the more frames you have to "choose from" when slowing down in post. So if your highest option is 60, do that. Can you control shutter as well? If so, then higher shutter to preserve sharpness which would result in better pixels for your post slo mo action to work with.

*i'm a dlsr guy.. Just trying to help :)
 
I never slow it in post. I used 170P 24Fps and crank it to 48, and more. I tried 30fps and over cranked it. Looks very good to me. I will upload some of the footage so you can make you own judgment. However, i am curious to see also 60fps and slow to 30 in post. If you guys ha footage to compare. But i will test this way myself. Theoretically, it will look as good. But be careful if you don't slow it down to exactly half, the software will duplicate frames to achieve the slow motion rate. That is what you want to avoid as it does not look as good.
 
Cody1 said:
Hi,
I'm new to the thread and am trying to get some input on the best settings foe an HVX 200 in slomo. Most posts say 720/24pn is the best, But I have found a stutter feeling to it when I pan. I was wondering if anyone else has seen this, if so is there a way around it? Also would it be better to go to 1080/60i and change the frame rate and shutter settings there, if yes which is the best combo?

Any input would be appreciated.
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The 720/24pn or 720/30pn are going to be your best option . . . the HPX200 & HPX170 don't do VFR in 1080.

Don't pan when you're shooting slow motion or, if you have to, be certain to employ some panning discipline.
What I mean is, you are more likely to experience judder at 24 frames than you are 30 or 60, right?
So you have to compensate by panning 40-50 % slower (and if you're shooting slo-mo you're going to have to slow it down much more than that).

I may have it wrong but I don't think shooting more frames then eliminating some of them in post is going to be superior in any way to doing it in camera. This is one of many cool features of the 200 & 170 . . . that they actually do VFR.

David S. posted this in an adjacent thread--you'll find it most useful: http://www.studiodaily.com/main/mini...X200_5993.html
 
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opatica said:
I never slow it in post. I used 170P 24Fps and crank it to 48, and more. I tried 30fps and over cranked it. Looks very good to me. I will upload some of the footage so you can make you own judgment. However, i am curious to see also 60fps and slow to 30 in post. If you guys ha footage to compare. But i will test this way myself. Theoretically, it will look as good. But be careful if you don't slow it down to exactly half, the software will duplicate frames to achieve the slow motion rate. That is what you want to avoid as it does not look as good.
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\Over cranking to double the frame rate is essentially the same as half speed in post. The only reson i prefer post is you have more control. You can slow it down or speed it up anything you want. I never shoot a whole movie in slow mo...i only want certain parts in slow mo. To do it on cam your making editing decisions while shooting and contantly changing cam settings. In post you can change it back and forth as many times as you want.
 
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