Best Rugged Indoor/Outdoor Boom Mic

so far, my progress to date: Im new with the AKG c480b with ck63 and ck69. I'm hopeing to have all my bases covered for the condeser mic's. Sorry, I dont know the Rode NT5.
 
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saneproductions said:
the rode nt3 won't fit in standard shockmounts and wind protection. I would go for the akg blueline with hyper cap if you don't like the oktava.
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The blueline is a bit more than i'd like to spend, or can afford I should say. The MK012 just seems to pick up everything in the room and out on the street for that matter, also the boom op needs to be extra extra steady with it. We are shooting a docudrama with a lot of movement, the MK012 would make a ton of noise.
 
low cut filter and better boom operator
i worked with the oktava without more problems that i had with neum150
the luck of low fq filter sometimes bring the boom rumbling to the preamp

the oktava hyper is not the tighter pattrn mic but sertanly good enouth for indoor us .
look some people prefer mkh -40 on the stic for internal work and it is true cardioid mic - very forgiving for the new guys for free :)
 
I think I am going to go with the RODE NT1A for interiors... Good price and good reviews... Please stop me if I'm making a mistake! Thanks everyone..
 
no no no! The NT1a is a large diaphragm cardioid condenser mic. Good for V/O not production. If you have a k-tek kssm and a decent carbon fiber boom (like k-tek or gitzo) plus a low cut on the mixer, then you will not have problems with the oktava. If your mixer doesn't have low cut, you could get one that works in-line passively Say 80- 100 Hz 12db/octave. You will also need the BBG if you plan to swing the boom hard. I would also like to add that all of that gear (kssm, good pole and bbg works with other hypers as you move up later... blueline, uls, at4053 and schoeps)

If you are hearing too much "room" then the mic is no where near close enough (say 12"-18" from the subject's mouth)
 
BTW, it doesn't matter what kind of mic you get if your boom op is, to quote someone else here ..." a ham fisted loon". You can get handling noise with the schoeps/CF pole/kssm. You need to secure the wire on the pole correctly too. There should be a little slack off the back of the mic to absorb shock, then the wire should be tied (or taped) down to the pole. That creates a floating loop that cable noise has a hard time passing up. The rest of the wire should be either wrapped around the pole or cable tied in place. The boom op can wear white cloth gardening gloves with the little rubber dots to keep from sliding their hands on the pole. etc etc. don't be so quick to blame the mic!
 
the switch does linear (no low cut for recording music) , low cut (which you will use often if not all the time for dialog), or -10db sensitivity (which you would only use in a loud environment such as a rock concert or airport). You will love that mic.

The k-tek kssm and the Rycote Baby Ball Gag (20mm) are the right match for that mic (I got the furry jammer too for outdoor use) It works really great!
 
So for $500 I can use AGK Blue Line mic both indoor and outdoor? Cool!

One thing I just thought of though... I won't be doing a lot of cutting to different angles. Mainly it will be long takes of 4 actors rapid firing dialogue back and forth. There is no way the boom op would be able to keep up. I'd need a mic the boom op can basically hold in the center of the actors as he attempts to keep up. Or would I basically "switch" to linear for that?
 
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Bosdiny discussed this mic on the first page.. so, Id need the CK98 with the AKG blue line too? That's another $400.
 
I would just get the thing you posted. The boom op would have to do their best keeping up. for the master shot. You would probably end up using the audio from the singles anyway, so it is not that big of a deal (keep the boom steady on each person as they say their lines and ask them to try not to step on each other). If you were Robert Almtman and you had tons of money, you may multi-track lav everything, but that my friend is money and you have to do it right with good stuff. Just get what you posted and bbg and kssm. I wouldn't pay $400 for the ck98 if the at4073 is only $500. That is crazy talk!
 
Okay so get the AT4073 instead of the CK98? I figured it'd be better to use the same brand of mic for both interior and exteriors. I could probably get the CK98 used. What is a kssm?
 
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the k-tek kssm shockmount for you hyper. The 4073 is better than the akg shotgun add on. It can also be used at the same time as your hyper, unlike if you just get another capsule.

Interiors
Get the bluline w/ ck93 hyper cap for interiors
Get a k-tek KSSM shockmount
Get a Rycote Baby Ball Gag (20mm)
Get a rycote fuzzy jammer for BBG (just in case you want to go outside)


Exteriors
Get an AT7073a Shotgun
Get a rycote softie if you only have $220 for wind protection
or...
Get a k-tek k-zepp if you can spend $500 on wind protection

Or just buy the interiors kit and try it outside and see if it works well enough for you (the wind protection will work great, but it will have less off-axis rejection than a shotgun would. The wind protection for the shotgun is what kills you on price though.
 
The K-Teck K-SSM says it is designed to accomodate the Sanken CS-1 Short shot gun mic. I have a shockmount now, not sure if it will fit the Blue Line though..
 
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