Best framerate for multi-camera theater shoot?

MichaelTiemann

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I'm in the early stages of planning a multi-camera shoot at a high-school theater/auditorium. I'm aware that the HMC cameras have a mechanism for synchronizing timecodes so that footage can be conveniently time-aligned. I am also aware that this method is not guaranteed to be either frame- nor sample-accurate across the 2 hour duration of the performance. Multi-track audio will be recorded separately, so no camera need be the definitive audio reference.

It seems to me that I can pretty much guarantee that all cameras will be within 1/2 a frame (if progressive) or 1/2 a field (if interlaced) of each other, no matter how many cameras I use. I say this because even if one camera drifts to record one more frame than the average and another drifts to record one fewer frame than average, I can splice the footage of the unseen camera to double or omit the one frame and be back to my max 1/2 error. I.e., I'm not going to do a 2-hour long dissolve between two cameras.

If I have this right, then capturing at 24p will mean potential mis-alignment of video information by as much as 1/48th of a second, and capturing at 60i will mean potential misalignment of at most 1/120th of a second. Thus, it seems to me I'll have the best time alignment by recording at 60i. However, there might be other reasons why 24p may be preferable, such as better low-light performance. It may also be the case that the longer exposure times create more "fluidity" between the frames, making non-alignment less of an issue.

Who has found what to be the best frame rates for multi-camera shoots in light-challenged environments? Thanks!
 
I do a lot of multi-camera theater shoots. I will have 2-3 cameras and a seperate digital recorder over the stage for the best sound. I always shoot 24p and have been very pleased with the result. It's quite possible to sync everything together by hand, but I've found using the PluralEyes software from Singular software saves me a lot of time on that step.

Fredrick Keyser
 
Are you really in need of 1080? I shoot multicam day-in-day-out and always shoot at 720/50p (you would be at 60p).

I also sync 4 cameras and they are usually within 3 or 4 frames at the start of the shoot - and once I sync the first frame they never drift enough to ever worry me over a couple of hours.

Synchronising the footage manually is usually very easy - simply load all the cameras on to the timeline - reduce the size to 50% and place each shot in different parts of the frame (50% means you can see 4 shots at the same time - one in each corner). Then find a suitable mode on stage (literally anywhere during the performance) or a camera flash etc and move the appropriate sequence + or - the required frames.

Once you have the video aligned, disable all but one of the camera's audio then sync the digital recorder's audio to the remaining camera. Job done. This whole process rarely takes me more than a couple of minutes.
 
I don't disable the audio on the other cams. Let all cams record audio. Makes it easier for syncing, even if you are jam syncing since jam syncing tends to drift.

I wouldn't worry about frame drift based on frame rate either. Just avoid 60i because interlaced looks like crap imo.

Keep in mind also that the lower the frame rate t he slower any pans will have to be. So while 24 or 30P will give you better low light and filmic look, if you are shooting something where you cameras will have a lot of quick movement then you might want to shoot at 72060P, possibly with some DRS if light is an issue.
 
I don't disable the audio on the other cams. Let all cams record audio. Makes it easier for syncing, even if you are jam syncing since jam syncing tends to drift.

Sorry if there is some miss understanding here ...

I only disable the audio on the other cameras while syncronizing the audio from the digital recorder in the NLE - once everything in sync'd I re-enable it.

All cameras record audio at all times!
 
Keep in mind also that the lower the frame rate the slower any pans will have to be. So while 24 or 30P will give you better low light and filmic look, if you are shooting something where you cameras will have a lot of quick movement then you might want to shoot at 72060P, possibly with some DRS if light is an issue.

We're doing an opera, so moves are all really slow. But thanks for the reminder...we'll make them 2x slower ;-)
 
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