Best DSLR 2nd camera for F35?
- Thread starter SJX
- Start date
I see similarities between F35 and Alexa footage, so staying within range of that color science would be my focus. A GH5 with V-Log (All-I 400Mbps ) or the BMPCC/BMCC (RAW) might be better matches in that effort than anything from the recent Sony A7 series. There are several F35 LUT's available that could also assist.
NorBro
Major Contributor
I have been trying to find this one thread or post somewhere on this forum...IIRC I think the person was using a F35 and the BMPCC (pocket) with some kind of Russian lenses (or maybe anamorphic lenses or both...IDR).
But the images were amazing and I think it could be a good choice based on the RAW flexibility and the very organic film look the camera produces (just like the F35).
But the images were amazing and I think it could be a good choice based on the RAW flexibility and the very organic film look the camera produces (just like the F35).
See the example footage of the A7 III on youtube. For $2k it's a great deal. I'd pick that over the A7S2 at this point (until the A7S III is out- no release date yet, though speculation is around July based on an A7S III book release date. A7S III rumored to get the new VENICE color science: if true, will be a killer camera).
SJX
Veteran
I don't know. I see nothing in blackmagic image that looks F35. But BMPCC is also not even S35. I said I want FF if possible but S35 is minimum. Why so many suggestions of small sensor cameras? I think BMPCC is like 16mm? New BMPCC is GH5 small sensor. Blackmagic quality also risky.
What sony DSLR have you match with F35 best?
abreu-canedo
Well-known member
I'm not sure many people would have a good answer for this question. I'm sure F35s have been paired up with DSLRs, but too small a sample group that I think very few people have tested a wide range of DSLRs with that purpose in mind.
Perhaps someone will have a good answer, but you could probably test it yourself. After all, you know better than any of us what your criteria and priorities are. If you do this test, you should post it here. Would be cool to see.
The 12bit 4444 image from the F35 is very robust with lots of color information. My initial instinct, and certainly my approach for B/C Cameras is, does the B or C camera have enough flexibility in post to get it close to the A-Camera without having to cripple the A-Camera too much. As such, cameras with RAW capability will help in this department...whence why people are suggesting the Black Magic Cameras (cheap, small, RAW). I'd probably prioritize bit depth and RAW capability over sensor size and form factor...but that's just my approach.
Anyways, best of luck!
Perhaps someone will have a good answer, but you could probably test it yourself. After all, you know better than any of us what your criteria and priorities are. If you do this test, you should post it here. Would be cool to see.
The 12bit 4444 image from the F35 is very robust with lots of color information. My initial instinct, and certainly my approach for B/C Cameras is, does the B or C camera have enough flexibility in post to get it close to the A-Camera without having to cripple the A-Camera too much. As such, cameras with RAW capability will help in this department...whence why people are suggesting the Black Magic Cameras (cheap, small, RAW). I'd probably prioritize bit depth and RAW capability over sensor size and form factor...but that's just my approach.
Anyways, best of luck!
I agree, and is one of the reasons why I mentioned the F3 and F23.
You're overthinking this to a destructive degree, there is nothing about the BMPCC/BMPCC4K/GH5S sensor size that would make it a bad match for the F35 at all.
If you want a camera which can be the best match with the mighty F35 then naturally that means choosing a camera which has top notch video for its class, and thus of course the likes of a GH5S or a BMPCC4K will always be on the tips of people's tongues to suggest first.
SJX
Veteran
No speed booster thanks. Adds cost size and weight. I don't want to be rude. Maybe is just my writing. But is not very helpful if I ask about sony camera and FF and s35 and people suggest panasonic, blackmagic m43 and 16mm. Yes I worry about blackmagic quality control. This is what I mean.
Last edited:
SJX
Veteran
I was hoping F35 users would know and have used something with their F35. I can't rent all sony DSLRs to test. I have unusual situation where I need shoot with 3 cameras. No chance of get 2 more F35. I thought about canon but I rented C300 and hated the look. Too video. So maybe if I can match sony DSLR with F35 is better. Try to film as much as possible with F35 and other shots with sony DSLR. I think S35 is important. Match 16mm to F35 will just make it even more hard match. FF can be cropped to S35 at least. Yes RAW is good. But not if 16mm sensor for me. Sorry.
SJX
Veteran
F23 and F3 is too big I said it. Then I might as well buy another F35. Don't want big. I'm not overthinking. 16mm sensor will make it even more hard to match. Panasonic color looks nothing like F35 and I don't like panasonic color and GH5 is not RAW. BMPCC4k is not even shipping is it? Also same sensor as GH5. Who knows how will color be? BMPCC is 16mm sensor. Not correct. I don't understand how GH5 is good match for F35. Totally different color. I think best option will be some A7 camera. Question is which one? Somebody told me A7S is probably best to match because is older like F35. A7SII and newer looks more different etc. I don't know. Is not about best one is about closest one to fool the eye. Varicam is good quality image but can never match F35. Look is too different for example.
By the way who is down voting all posts? I didn't down vote any. What a child.
Even with the small cost and small weight of the focal reducer, a BMPCC4K/GH5/GH5S/G85/G80 is still lighter and cheaper than most alternatives!
So this objection makes no sense at all to me.
Matching S16 and S35 should be a non issue, and matching MFT and S35 should be even more of a non issue!