Best 16x9 Resolution

PaPa

PaPa

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I realize that you loose somewhere around 15-25 % resolution when using squeeze mode, but what would give the best resolution?

a) shooting in squeeze mode and entering it in 16x9 timeline

b) shoot in letterbox and enlarge the video till it fills the frame?

( Besides Uprezzing ) Still trying to figure out how its done ( have gone through the faqs but get stuck near the end )
 
Keep in mind that you need to use a focusing chart, with the anamorphic, for best results. It shouldn't be a big deal, but just to make you aware.
 
If you are in total control of the shoot then anamorphic adaptor all the way.

Saying that, I have shot my last three weddings (totally random shooting in comparison to most things) and have achieved great results.

Practice before the shoot helps no end. I have the focus chart but with a little pratice you wont need it. If you stick to my basic rule of never going beyond 85 zoom the focus in manual should behave as normal (with a little more than expected twist of the focus wheel).

Check out my site www.wedding-videos-uk.com 95% shot with ana lense and a little with XL2. Didn't consult a chart (no time to) and it's spot on. dont be intimidated by the ana lense. go for it

Regards

Jon
 
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lol not using anamorphic adapter.

not gunna spend that much when i can uprezz later on.

but ya

question remains the same

what is higher in resolution?

Squeeze mode, or 4x3 then enlarged?
 
im not sure you guys are getting the point of what im saying


Scenario one ) I record in squeeze mode and import it into a 16x9 timeline ( squeeze loses alot of resolution)

scenario two) i film in 4x3, letterbox it and import it into a 16x9 timeline, then enlarge the video to fit the entire 16x9 frame.
 
'sqeeze' and 'letterbox and enlarge the video till it fills the frame' will give you virtually equal quality.
Same goes for the '4:3 and then crop' scenario; with the difference that you can SELECT which part you want to use, by having the option of moving up/down in the NLE.
 
about the same huh? Thought this would be the case. Anyways, what about that uprezzing shinanigans?
 
I haven't the foggiest idea what you mean about uprezzing: uprezzing to what?
Sorry, I just don't understand.

All "uprezzing" can do is display something of lower quality at a higher definition. You will never GAIN any resolution that way. Garbage in, garbage out.

There's a few things that one can do, like...darn who is it that does this here? I forget.
But basically you can use a special enlarging technology such as S-Spline, whereby you'd feed that software individual images from a frame server. Is that what you mean? Yeah, that is somewhat effective I guess.....rather time consuming though!

What are you trying to achieve actually?
 
I did a quick test. I shot the same scene in 24p twice. Once in squeeze, and once in normal 4x3. With the squeeze footage i used thin line detail. The two scenes looked very close, with the squeeze footage looking slightly soft. But very close.

I just got a hold of photozoom pro. So now I can try Disjecta's method of uprezzing the letterboxed footage. In my limted testing of the software, it seemed to work pretty well, but I can't imagine doing a long project with it. Hopefully in the next few days I can figure this out once and for all.
 
Basically both the squeeze mode and "uprezzing" 4:3 letterbox gives you EXACTLY the same resolution. Both start with too little vertical pixels and uprezz those to the DV 16:9 standard (same as 4:3). The difference is that when using squeeze the camera does it on the fly and records the uprezzed data to tape, edit can do the same afterwords for letterbox if wanted. In theory the calculations edit does could be more accurate.

As said, shooting plain 4:3 and cropping/uprezzing also gives the same resolution, AND a chance to reframe the shot vertically in the edit.

Thus, in the order of quality/benefits:

- anamorphic (no vertical uprezzing)
- 4:3, reframe, crop, vertical uprezz
- 16:9 letterbox, vertical uprezz
- 16:9 squeeze (automatic vertical uprezz in camera)

these two last ones practically the same, but squeeze is less hassle
 
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