Before and After retouching, check this!

Example 1

Example 1

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Example 2

Example 2

Added the top for a magazine cover.. The bare skin was considered too risky. I hope this isn't considered pornographic for this board. If it is I will remove instantly.

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Yeah, Matt,
that is nice work also.
Like I mentioned earlier, for what this is for (especially the original link) this is actually good work, and quite well executed. It matters little if we personally think it "looks plastic". It sells product, and is what the client wants.

And TajJackson, I must admit I had to check the IMAGE PROPERTIES to see which was before and which was after. AND I got it wrong! Ouch, I like the first one better (except for teeth color). Just a personal opinion, sorry. (This in reference to your first example, not the second one, which i just saw after i posted this.)
 
NICE JOB on adding the top. I think we're ok with this. Much of what I've done I could never post - LOL!

I also like the job you did on the first one - but don't forget the hands!
 
vidled said:
And TajJackson, I must admit I had to check the IMAGE PROPERTIES to see which was before and which was after. AND I got it wrong! Ouch, I like the first one better (except for teeth color). Just a personal opinion, sorry.

I assume the second photo was the "after", no?
 
Aye, but I think the second goes too far into the blueish hue, especially given the clothing and the background. I see some wrinkle removal on closer inspection, but have to say that overall i prefer the first one. Again, except for the teeth.
 
I think the second one would have been more pleasing if you warm the skin tones. Try adding a curves adjustment layer (or simply duplicating the layer and adding a warming filter) and then hide it with a layer mask. Then pain the warm skin tone back in.
 
MattC said:
I think the second one would have been more pleasing if you warm the skin tones.

Ah, yes, maybe that's what I thought was slightly off. I think it's very "cold" at the moment.
 
The top add was nice, but made the pose look odd. If I didn't know that the top was added I'd wonder why she was grabbing her boob.
 
Added some warmth

Added some warmth

You guys were right about the image feeling "cold". Serves me right for using Photoshop's Auto Levels and Auto Color. I added some warmth back into the image.

Before
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and After...
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PS. Still got to work on those hands....
 
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taj: VERY nice!!
Very cool that you took the contructive critique so well, and implemented it right away! I like that new AFTER pic; well done!!!
 
That is nice Taj, but I'd still like to see you do it one more time, this time keeping the cool tone you first created, everywhere except her skin. You might warm it just a tad so that the white t-shirt is actually white, but other than that leave it how you had it. I'm not saying this will be the "right" way, really there is no right way, but it will be interesting for you, and us, to see the three different examples.

Matt
 
wow, i wish i had photoshop so i could work on my skills. you guys are pretty good. it's amazing i think, because it's not really the photographer that makes the model look good, it's really the photoshop artist. atleast, in the professional world it seems this way.
 
Justin_Kirch said:
...because it's not really the photographer that makes the model look good, it's really the photoshop artist

Well, NOT quite, in the examples shown here the images were VERY good to start with. Look at Matt's pics!! The saying goes: crap in, crap out!
But yeah, they sure can be improved a lot!
 
Actually, in the "professional world" ps plays a role, but not a very big one.

I'll give you an example, everyone thinks the photos in Playboy (the monthly magazine) are heavily retouched - they aren't. In fact, most of the time there is very little to no retouching at all.

Here's the "trick"....

You get a pool of applicants in the thousands (about 20,000 per month). From there you pick the one with the most flawless skin imaginable. You bring her in about three months prior to the shoot and you put her on a strict regimen of diet, exercise, tanning, and skin care.

When it comes to the shoot, bring in the best makeup artist and they work on her for a couple hours, quite literally airbrushing her. They'll airbrush on the foundation (silicon based to fill) they'll airbrush on the base and the rest of the basic makeup. Then they'll carefully craft the remaining makeup.

Then comes the lighting. For Playboy it's very formulaic, but get this, for each photo the use between 20 and 40 lights. That's 20 to 40 strobes (maybe a few hotlights thrown in) for, essentially, a single portrait.... Think about that....

Go through all that and then tell me how much airbrushing needs to be done....

And it's not just Playboy, ANY beauty model (makeup ads, hair ads) tend to be pretty flawless. Runway, not so much.

As vidled said, garbage in, garbage out...
 
Adjusting the color temperature definitely helped.

However, I think the skin is a bit too yellow now.

Also, personal preference on this, but I would burn or dodge the hair a bit. The value/color is too similar to her skin color.

If you haven't submitted your Bikini add picture, you need to add a shadow under her hand and sculpt the lighting a bit more. It all looks kind of flat and cut-out right now.
 
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Sure, but that'll take time to do. I'll also recommend some books when I get home.

Tell you what. Go get a photo you would like to "galmourize" and post it here. Then we'll look at it and analyze it, and I'll walk you through how I would do it step by step. We'll all post examples along the way as well as the finished images. While you'll be posting jpgs here, you should work on the highest resolution image you have. Oh and if any others want to do this too, join in!

Waddya say? Should I start this as a new topic. The glamour workshop in PS thread? LOL!
 
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