Beating the youtube censor

[Capt Quirk]

What is your "right" worth if nobody listens to your music?

Actually ther are no such things as "rights" - it´s just made up.
What you have is temporally privileges that the goverment can change and take away from you anytime, any day at teir will.

But that´s getting to much into phiolosophy.

Frank

He's pretty close to the truth here. And as for the music rights, the musician doesn't hold them anymore, they signed those over to the music company when they got the record deal. What they now have, is a right to a few cents per sale of their music, and the music company gets the rest. If you want to use Tom Petty's song, you can't just walk up to him and say "Hi Tom Petty, I love your music, and would like to use a song in one of my videos. Here's $20, would that be ok?" Instead, you have to hunt and search for some nameless Dick in a Tie in some secret office. And when you finally find him, he wants $1,250 to let you use that song, but poor Tom is still only getting a few meager cents off the deal. So, in practice, when you pirate the music, it's only costing the artist a few cents. But on the other hand, some Dick in a tie is getting screwed out of Thousands. It seems almost like poetic justice if you look at it that way.

 

[Batutta]

What you have is temporally privileges that the goverment can change and take away from you anytime, any day at teir will.

But that´s getting to much into phiolosophy.

Frank

No, what you're getting at is the fundamental lynchpin of our society. The entire US government is designed around protecting property rights. That's what lawyers are for, police are for, firemen are for, and the military are for. They exist not to keep us safe, they exist to keep our STUFF safe, and if you feel like challenging the fundamental value of our society, go right ahead. Just don't be surprised when you meet resistance.

 

[David W. Richardson]

He's pretty close to the truth here. And as for the music rights, the musician doesn't hold them anymore, they signed those over to the music company when they got the record deal. What they now have, is a right to a few cents per sale of their music, and the music company gets the rest. If you want to use Tom Petty's song, you can't just walk up to him and say "Hi Tom Petty, I love your music, and would like to use a song in one of my videos. Here's $20, would that be ok?" Instead, you have to hunt and search for some nameless Dick in a Tie in some secret office. And when you finally find him, he wants $1,250 to let you use that song, but poor Tom is still only getting a few meager cents off the deal. So, in practice, when you pirate the music, it's only costing the artist a few cents. But on the other hand, some Dick in a tie is getting screwed out of Thousands. It seems almost like poetic justice if you look at it that way.

It can "seem" like poetic justice -- but it's still illegal.

As for that 'Dick in a Tie', he (or his company) paid Tom Petty a nice chunk of money to own that music. They have every right to profit off their investment.

We are moviemakers. We want people to invest in our movies. Then we want to sell them to a distributor and make a nice profit. That distributor is taking a risk with our movie. Maybe they won't make back their investment, much less a profit. Hopefully they will, which will make our next movie all the more attractive to them, as well as to other distributors.

But instead, someone pirates our movie and hands out free copies to whoever wants them. Or puts it online where people can watch it for free and not have to buy or rent a DVD. The distributor loses money. If enough of that happens, the distributor goes out of business. Either way, we likely lose when we try to peddle our next movie.

We're in the "intellectual property" business. How on earth can we possibly justify piracy in any form?

 

[David W. Richardson]

No, what you're getting at is the fundamental lynchpin of our society. The entire US government is designed around protecting property rights. That's what lawyers are for, police are for, firemen are for, and the military are for. They exist not to keep us safe, they exist to keep our STUFF safe, and if you feel like challenging the fundamental value of our society, go right ahead. Just don't be surprised when you meet resistance.

Right on the nose, Batutta!

I don't know how things work in Germany. But in the US, our right to our own creative creations is automatic. We don't have to pay a fee to the government in order to have that right. Our work is copyrighted by default. We own it. It's ours to do with as we wish.

Anyone taking our property from us, no matter the method or justification, is stealing. Period.

 

[bikefilms]

I recently discovered that one of my youtube videos I uploaded years ago was taken down because it had a song from Band of Horses. Even though it was just a small clip of the song, it still got taken down....

...Is there some sort of frequency sound that disrupt it if it were overlapped?

Thoughts?

I would think that an "audio watermark" of some sort would do it. I've been recording the weird (freakin weird!) audio CAPTACHA that Craigslist uses when confirming a listing.

Maybe it'll spawn a whole genre of video with, "Aeeeee......7.....Kaaaay......Four....." in the background.

-andrew