Battlestar Galactica

What kills me about this last episode is that they immediately start with... more backstory!

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that after a four year run the last fracking episode is not the right place to start with more backstory. They've wasted hours of our time already with backstory over the years, and to start off the final episode with more backstory screams of hackery.

What makes it worse is that there's no need for it. There are lots of more and better ways to come to a conclusion (while keeping the same basic storyline) without reverting to cheesy flashbacks. Did the writers not even watch the episodes they were writing?

Very, very sloppy. My feeling now is that they said, "F this. Let's just end it. Doesn't matter how. Our audience are a bunch of retards anyway."

I remember watching the last behind the scenes special where they kept talking about the final episode. The thing was that Ron and the other team couldn't put the final episodes together, and they felt the pieces weren't fitting. Then he said that it hit him one night and the next morning he wrote across the board "it's about the characters stupid".

So yes, it was a last minute device to put it all together. As for if it worked or not, I didn't mind it all too much, however I also felt it was somewhat pointless. It didn't develop anything.
 
Well, I had only watched sporadically before the last 1/2-season, and perhaps for that reason, I had no trouble with the extra backstory. Perhaps they were keeping folks like me in mind...
 
I just started on season 2.5... resurrection ship episodes rocked... this is an awesome show... can't wait to see how it plays out!
 
Just finished season 3... wow.

So how did you feel about this season versus 1 and 2? Season 3 turned off a lot of the fans.

If you got past some of the more pointless episodes from the latter half of season 3 unscathed, you'll probably really enjoy the first half of season 4. It is much more focused and exciting than the second half of the third season.
 
A lot of people didn't like the episodes in season 3 that veered off from the story, but I enjoyed some of them. Felt like they needed it to expand on the world a bit.

First half of season 3 was my favorite part of the entire series though. The cliff hangar at the end of season 2 was also my favorite cliff hangar of any show I watched.
 
A lot of people didn't like the episodes in season 3 that veered off from the story, but I enjoyed some of them. Felt like they needed it to expand on the world a bit.

I didn't hate all the episodes from the latter half of season 3, but a couple felt unnecessary, or at the very least they could have combined the storylines from a couple of them into one episode and left room for something else. Also, maybe season 3 didn't need a full 20 episodes? If it was leaner and meaner it might have been more compelling and exciting.

First half of season 3 was my favorite part of the entire series though. The cliff hangar at the end of season 2 was also my favorite cliff hangar of any show I watched.

I think this is what makes some of the latter episodes of season 3 not as good. They did such an amazing job with the end of season 2.5 and the first half of season 3 that they backed themselves into a corner in terms of having to deliver something even more amazing. Plus, I bet they spent a large portion of the third season's budget on the New Caprica stuff.

The end of season 3 and its cliffhanger was pretty frakin' good though.
 
The end of season 3 and its cliffhanger was pretty frakin' good though.

I dunno, I wasn't a big fan of the season 3 cliff-hanger. I think once it hit the cliff-hanger and went on to the fourth season, I was a bit disappointed.

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I mean I just didn't like who they announced to be the final 5 cylons. It's like they just drew names out of a hat for it. Plus Tory? I hate Tory, never liked her, even as a bad guy. The only one that I really enjoyed being one of the final five is Cheif. He's such a good heart, love him as a person, and a cylon, and the way it ties in with his hate for boomer and that episode where he beleived he was a cylon when he attacked Cally.

Then the way the season was coming to an end was just a bit wierd. It felt like they were rushing the whole prophecy. In the final episodes they're never that close to earth, and the final five are supposed to lead them to earth, how do they do this? They "feel" something in Kara's ship, which leads them to earth, all in the matter of a few minutes. Bah humbug!

I dunno, the final season just felt disjointed and wierdly paced. I liked how it ended, but meh. Plus the whole baltar thing was just wierd.

The thing that I DID like in the final season was Kara's development. Her coming back in the cliff-hanger, not knowing who she is, the way she goes off on a ship with a few people to find earth, etc. Loved it, but I felt they should have played more with this.
 
I dunno, the final season just felt disjointed and wierdly paced. I liked how it ended, but meh. Plus the whole baltar thing was just wierd.

I felt that way about season 4.5 while it was unfolding on a weekly basis. Now that I've seen it completed, I feel better about season 4 in general. Season 4.0 did feel more focused on a regular basis though. I loved the mutiny arc and the finale arc, which made up for a lot of season 4.5's missteps.

The thing that I DID like in the final season was Kara's development. Her coming back in the cliff-hanger, not knowing who she is, the way she goes off on a ship with a few people to find earth, etc. Loved it, but I felt they should have played more with this.



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I think that they could have done more with this by having Kara and a new crew of civilians/military and Cylon explorers going around on Cylon Earth (Nuked Earth). It could've tied into her quest to figure out what she is after her mysterious resurrection. It also would've been a way to have more Kara and Leoben scenes, as well as a way to continue Lucy Lawless and her D'Anna character. I'm not saying they should've done this for the entirety of season 4.5, but for at least a few episodes. How cool would it be if they did this exploration subplot and the Colonial and Cylon explorers found an old Earth Cylon on its last legs? Either way, I wanted to know a little more about Cylon Earth.
 
I recently picked up BSG: The Complete Series collection on Blu-ray. Once I finish watching Mad Men season 2, I plan on starting the entire BSG series from the beginning, watch it all the way through during August.
 
Oh man, I want to get that! How much did you pick it up for?

I got it for $209 at Best Buy. Normal MSRP is listed as $349, so I figure that it won't drop much more than about 200 bucks, at least not anytime soon. When I bought it last week, the price tag said $249 but they had it on sale for $209. Right now, Amazon has it for $219. Not sure if the Best Buy deal for $209 is still good, because on their site they have it listed back at $249.

I probably shouldn't have spent $209 on blu-ray's right now, but BSG is literally my favorite TV series of all time. I even enjoy it more than some of the epic film trilogies like Star Wars, Matrix, Indiana Jones. I'd even put it equal to or better than my favorite film trilogy, The Lord of the Rings.

So I figure that with the many times I plan on watching it, it is money well spent.

The only caveats I have are the disc packaging, which make the discs hard to get out, and the fact that they didn't include the season 4.0-4.5 web series The Face of the Enemy. The big box and Cylon figure are pretty nifty though.
 
Brandon. Did you get to the finale yet? In the end it turns out that everyone in the show is a Cylon and humans have been dead for hundred of years. Then Haley Jole Osment dies and it turns out he, Edward Norton, Brad Pitt, and Bruce Willis (who was really dead the whole movie but didn't know it) were all actually the same person (er, Cylon), and you realize it's not them who are being haunted by ghosts, but they are in fact the ghosts who are being haunted by the living.
 
Brandon. Did you get to the finale yet? In the end it turns out that everyone in the show is a Cylon and humans have been dead for hundred of years. Then Haley Jole Osment dies and it turns out he, Edward Norton, Brad Pitt, and Bruce Willis (who was really dead the whole movie but didn't know it) were all actually the same person (er, Cylon), and you realize it's not them who are being haunted by ghosts, but they are in fact the ghosts who are being haunted by the living.

Are you sure this isn't the plot for The Sixth Sense sequel?
 
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