B&H says EX-1 was recalled? No new units till March?

ESTEBEVERDE,

It's a great camera - buy! There is nothing like it for the money. In some ways, at any price.

If you read these boards you've pretty much been bombarded with its faults. If you still think it's for you despite that, then I hardily recommend it.

It takes beautiful pictures - better than any handicam - ever. That's my opinion (please don't freak out on me, friends), and I've used most of them.
 
I think I just might!

I will look around town here and see if I can get a hold of one to do some shooting with.

I guess if worse comes to worse I can take to Ireland or the UK with me on my next trip and sell it there so some of the lads can get a better deal!
 
I've always looked at these purchases not as some grand, lifelong, ego involving commitment, but as an annual user fee.

Every year I buy and sell lots of my gear - stills cameras, video cameras, computers etc., so that I can have the latest and greatest. In the end, the difference between buying and selling prices is the fee I pay to have use of the gear. In terms of HD handicams, the EX1 is the latest and greatest.

eBay is a wonderful thing for those of us who have adopted this attitude - you can get surprisingly good prices for what you are selling. The EX1 is unlikely to be replaced soon, so if you buy it now you'll have a good few months to sell it before its price drops like a stone.
 
Okay, here are the stills of the tests shoot I did.

5mm zoom
10mm zoom
15mm zoom
25mm zoom
40mm zoom
81.2mm zoom

I just received Sony's label to send the camera back to repair. However, before I do so, I want to really make sure that my camera is in fact has a problem with creating shadows or vignetting. Every help is appreciated. If anyone has a EX1 camera, will you please try to do similar shots like mine so I can compare them?

Thank you so much for any kind of help.
 
is this stock lens only? no adapter?
Im almost tempted to say nothins wrong with it. but its very subtle but its there. the times i experience this is when i was tweaking my setup WITH an adapter. and how i minimized it or eliminated it was either of the following. 1. zooming in, 2. achromat and other elements, distance adjustments. 3. overall x,y alignments on the relay, adapter etc.

With that experience and looking at those stills i figure its highly caused by those things i mentioned but only this case inside the fixed lens to ccd block of the ex1.

Post those stills WITHOUT your red square so our eyes wont be 'distrupted' in analyzing them.

Take those same settings at small aperture and full open. post the pics with indication of apertures and we'll have a look see.

And oh, make sure you have an even light source and place it very close to or above your cam.
 
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ok, heres your grabs. the "defect" becomes obvious once the contrast are boosted. On optimally calibrated lenses, assuming your lighting is not at fault, is suppose to render these images evenly.

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I experienced these falloff 'effects' during my tests in setting up lenses with my lens adapter. usually appearing with lenses having small apertures and glass elements. So assuming these "defects" are rampant, one wild guess, since i'm no optical engineer, is that the fujinon to ccd configuration is off. These things could be fractions of a milimmeter off but has big difference in the aquired image.
 
There's nothing wrong with your camera.
The 10mm and 15mm shots from your camera look great. I could of only wished mine looked like this good.
Your example with contrast boosted is amplifying and center to edge uniformity differences. All lenses will exhibit some percentage of uniformity. Grab a different camera and I'm sure you will find similar results.

Here's an example of the vignetting issue. This was my camera before the adjustment (Actually, after the adjustemtment it's a tad worse, that's another story). This shot is probably close to the conditions of your 10 to 15mm images.

It's quite obvious.
vignetting_before.jpg


I'm not having to force mine to see it. It's clearly in all shots between 8-25mm focal length.

By the way, I work for a major lens manufacture as a project owner.
You can send your camera in, they "may" be able to balance your center-to-edge uniformity, but
I'm betting it will come back the same.
 
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Steve, that is why I hesitated to send mine in for repair. I've heard stories that after a repair, the camera (equipment) gets worse. Your still does show the same problem as mine. I do respect your opinions; however, it's hard to believed that this kind of defects are normal. Perhaps, I'm not used to see or look at those small defects. I have until March to send mine in. I want to do more tests and also waiting for those who have their EX1 do some test of their owns to see if they have similar problems with their camera.

Many thanks for those who post their suggestions/opinions. I'm greatly appreciated.
 
I would think so, as B&H says they are in stock. However, I am in Denmark, waiting for a German company to fulfill my order, and they claim that Sony has delayed their shipments once again. Shipments that were supposed to be fulfilled by early November last year.

Does anyone know of ANY german stores with the item in stock?

thanks.
 
myCharlie said:
Okay, here are the stills of the tests shoot I did.

5mm zoom
10mm zoom
15mm zoom
25mm zoom
40mm zoom
81.2mm zoom

I just received Sony's label to send the camera back to repair. However, before I do so, I want to really make sure that my camera is in fact has a problem with creating shadows or vignetting. Every help is appreciated. If anyone has a EX1 camera, will you please try to do similar shots like mine so I can compare them?

Thank you so much for any kind of help.
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Mycharlie, I understand you're concerns about the vignetting and will attempt to test my EX in the next few days and post the results. Meanwhile clean that wall. It filthy! LOL
 
Mine is on its way

Mine is on its way

I ordered my camera last Wednesday in the UK and was told it would definitely be here in about 2 weeks time. Another dealer gave the same answer of "in 2 weeks".

Yesterday I got an email saying it should be here on Monday.

This morning I was told the camera was now in stock and is being delivered tomorrow.

So I think it will be in plentiful supply by the time of the UK Broadcast and Vision Show at Earl's Court at the end of the month.
 
the dreaded black plague!

the dreaded black plague!

Aaaaaaaghhhh....
Just tested my EX lens and found I gots the vignetting.
Mycharlie, Stevet, if you have a minute can you confirm this by checking my shots? Would be greatful if ou could. Screen grabs at the marked intervals like you said.
I stuck a game watch on the wall for all but the last 81.2 shot to show scale. The shots are 5, 10, 25, 40 and 81.2 respectively.
The camera was on a tripod at about 3 feet from the wall. Sorry such dingy images. low light. I dont think it has what mycharlie has going on though. Just the corners I think.
Man, thats a real bummer, gotta send it in. Thanks for making me aware of it.
kubalsky
 

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kubalsky, thanks for testing your EX1 and post it back. You're right, many of the shots don't have the same problem that I have. However, your camera may have the lens problem...but again, I'm no expert in this. Hope someone will shine some light in this.
 
Kubalsky,

Looks like you have a very slight case of the vignetting issue, as visible in the upper and lower right corners of the 10mm shot.

That's exactly where the problem happens.

It's much less severe than most that I have seen, including mine.

Try the zoom track test: Put a marker on the wall (smal piece of tape or something) in exact frame center (use the center marker for precision) with the lens zoomed in. Now zoom in and out. Does the marker stay centered? If it doesn't it indicates a lens out of alignment.
 
You most definately have the vignetting issue. The 10mm shot right corners tell the story. The problem area is between 8-25mm and yours can still be slightly viewed at 40mm.

Was this camera from the latest batch?
 
Ill try the zoom test as you say Matthew77.

The serial no. is 300036. I bought this camera in Tokyo literally the day the first batch hit the shelves there in late November. I called all around town and thought I was lucky that I found a store that had one extra. Turns out I wasn't so lucky after all.

Luckily Ill be back there in February to take it in to the shop or even hand deliver it to Sony myself. Maybe Ill kick up a fuss till they cough up a free 8gig card to say their sorry. Hehe. Hopefully this can be adjusted.

But STEVET, didnt you say stevet that yours came back worse? Whats the status on that?
kubalsky
 
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