AVCCAM as hungry as AVCHD?
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Barry_Green
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AVCCAM is AVCHD. But if you have CS5, and a supported graphics card, it should be effortless and realtime to edit.
Are you looking to replace the HVX because it's AVCHD? If so, don't, because it isn't. It's DVCPRO HD. And that's easier to edit than AVCHD.
Thanks...I have Gh1 and HVX together. Thinking about trading in the HVX. Absolutely love P2 and the way my computer handles it.
Barry, as it is my Core2 Quad PC with 8 Gigs barely handles the AVCHD. Stack more then 2 layers of video...forget it. My understanding is the CUDA supported gfx card does nothing for codec playback..its all in the processor power...of which i's like NOT to upgrade any time soon.
Barry, as it is my Core2 Quad PC with 8 Gigs barely handles the AVCHD. Stack more then 2 layers of video...forget it. My understanding is the CUDA supported gfx card does nothing for codec playback..its all in the processor power...of which i's like NOT to upgrade any time soon.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Your understanding is incorrect. Having a CUDA graphics card makes AVCHD scream. On a dual-core system with a CUDA card you'll easily get full realtime playback and editing. Run, do not walk, to enable the CUDA capabilities. Google for the Premiere hack, if your graphics card isn't a supported one. It will transform your editing experience.
mikebarber
Active member
I'm a bit dumb when it comes to (among other things) graphics card upgrades… anyone know what compatible options there are for Mac Pro Early 2008 (MA970LL/A - MacPro3,1) for editing AVCHD? right now I have the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT.
Now that FCPX has dropped and the (lack of a) future has been revealed, I'm thinking of making the jive from FCP to Adobe CS (I have CS5, but never payed Premiere any attention).
Now that FCPX has dropped and the (lack of a) future has been revealed, I'm thinking of making the jive from FCP to Adobe CS (I have CS5, but never payed Premiere any attention).
Alpha Beta Omega
Veteran
I run AVCHD smoothly even on a Macpro 2xquadra from 2007 with an ATI HD2600 gfxadapter at work. I have to render effects but that's tru for most NLE and it can actually play some effects without render.
Just to chime in on hardware decisions... if you try to manage cost, buy the most capable Intel CPU you can afford and then a nVidia Fermi-based video card. This is to say avoid spending on the video card at the expense of the CPU. For the current CPU performance ranking, check this chart; for GPU check this chart. These charts fully apply to video workloads. Hope this helps.
Postmaster
Dark Side of the Camera
Well, kind of screaming.
Yes, you have full realtime experience, on that sort of system configuration, but compared to DVCProHD or uncompressed it´s not exactly snappy but let´s call it workable.
An i7 CPU and 16 Gig of ram will speed things up significant.
Frank
Igelkott Film
Well-known member
I have i7 hexa core at 3,6ghz, with 24gb ram an Nvidia GTX 470 and here is the funny part.
The damn computer does not play the timeline correctly, I have a 25fps timeline witch it plays the video at 24 and after some seconds its out of sync with the audio and then its snaps up at 26fps to hit the audio sync to do it all over again...
The damn computer does not play the timeline correctly, I have a 25fps timeline witch it plays the video at 24 and after some seconds its out of sync with the audio and then its snaps up at 26fps to hit the audio sync to do it all over again...
We have an i7-920 w/ 12gigs of ram, and a GTX480 at work. We edit AVCHD from the hmc150 and Sanyo xacti cams, as well as DVCPROHD and AVC-intra from the hvx200 and hpx300.
While AVCHD is certainly workable with that configuration, it is still far clunkier than DVCPROHD and AVC-Intra. The effects are rendered real time, which is nice, but I'm pretty sure the CUDA card does nothing in terms of scrubbing through footage, and that's where the real difference is. Shorter 720p clips almost approach that perfectly smooth mark, but longer 1080p clips are still pretty brutal. In fact, we edit alot of 1080 60p stuff from the tm700 and that's the slowest of the bunch. This is all done in CS5.0.03.
Also, I have an i7-2600k w/ 16gigs of ram at home, but no CUDA card. It scrubs AVCHD from my HMC150 faster/smoother than the i7-920 w/ CUDA card at work, though the difference isn't substantial. That supports my theory that it's all cpu doing the scrubbing.
So while you can get a reasonably fast experience w/ AVCHD, don't expect buttery smooth for at least a couple of computer generations.
While AVCHD is certainly workable with that configuration, it is still far clunkier than DVCPROHD and AVC-Intra. The effects are rendered real time, which is nice, but I'm pretty sure the CUDA card does nothing in terms of scrubbing through footage, and that's where the real difference is. Shorter 720p clips almost approach that perfectly smooth mark, but longer 1080p clips are still pretty brutal. In fact, we edit alot of 1080 60p stuff from the tm700 and that's the slowest of the bunch. This is all done in CS5.0.03.
Also, I have an i7-2600k w/ 16gigs of ram at home, but no CUDA card. It scrubs AVCHD from my HMC150 faster/smoother than the i7-920 w/ CUDA card at work, though the difference isn't substantial. That supports my theory that it's all cpu doing the scrubbing.
So while you can get a reasonably fast experience w/ AVCHD, don't expect buttery smooth for at least a couple of computer generations.
mikebarber
Active member
oh, no you didn't?! No… I'm not going there. Not touching this one with a 10m pole. ;-p