Audio-Technica AT8035 mic - usable, or obsolete?

OldCorpse

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OK, so I was just thrown a curve. As I said in my previous thread, a friend of mine offered me the Rycote S-Series 450 Windshield Kit because he wasn't using it anymore. Initially I was happy that I wouldn't have to buy a blimp system, but then I looked into it, and realized that it wouldn't fit the mic I am getting which is the super short AT875r. Although it was suggested that I might be able to rig something internally, I was somewhat deflated by the prospect. So today I wrote to him that sadly I probably won't be able to use his kit on account of the mic not fitting... and he wrote back that I'm welcome to use his AT8035 mic that he was using with that S-Series 450, but now he uses neither that mic nor the blimp! He was thinking of selling both as he never used them anymore, since he has other newer mics, but never got around to it.

Now that puts me into a dilemma. Sure, I can accept both, but there must have been a reason why he gave up on them - clearly the mic (and maybe the blimp) is quite obsolete. I don't want to turn down such a generous offer, but I wonder what to do. My first thought was, well, if it's really windy, I can use the AT8035 in the blimp and that way I have something for really bad conditions. But my second thought was - what if the AT8035 is so poor, that the newer mics completely outdistance it, including the cheap 897 I have my eye on, and I'll merely be shooting myself in the foot by using the 8035 at all?

What's your take? And is the AT8035 really not up to it for dialogue - I'd be using it only in really windy situations outside?
 
The 8035 is NOT an obsolete mic. It's been around a while but is still actively in Audio Technica's lineup. It's a long shotgun, not very well suited to camera mounting, and its narrow sweet spot means the boom operator needs to know what he's doing but in knowledgeable hands there's no reason to think it's not up to the job. You definitely would not want to use it in a reflective interior and it will be sensitive to wind and handling noise but that's normal behavior for any shotgun mic.

B&H's price for the AT8035 new is $239. Whether you should get your friends depends on how far below that he's offering to sell.
 
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Thanks, Steve, the mic + boom are a gift :) - I saved him about $3K a month ago, when he thought his transmission was toast and the place he brought it to wanted $3K - I took him to my mechanic and $28 dollars later, his transmission was fine (it was not a transmission problem, heh, exactly as I suspected, because it happened to me once). Anyhow, I just want this to be good enough for use when it's very windy outside - that way I can stick the 8035 in the blimp - because I can't see where else I'd use it... if I wanted to use a shotgun outside, I'd just use the 875r. If you tell me that the 8035 is usable, then I'm fine with it, although as you say, experienced sound person only - sadly, not likely in my case, as a friend who is going to be doing sound has very little experience.
 
I'd take your friend up on the offer of mic + blimp, but on the project you have coming up I don't know if I would risk having your friend run it. If he is not used to keeping a boomed mic pointed directly at the face or chin area of the talent with something bound to be lighter in weight, a strong wind buffeting the blimp could easily cause him to lose alignment.

The 875 will be a touch more forgiving in that area, just the same you need to do some serious training with him before counting on him to "get" the sound you need. The 875r plus thewindcutter.com "StormChaser" should be good in 25-30MPH winds, but you still need a few "training" sessions with him where he tries to keep the boom in position and then gets to hear actual dialog he recorded so he get's adequate feedback before your crew "goes live".

I'll likely use a stand and boom setup with my gear so I position the mic, and monitor through headphones myself while running the camera.
 
I think that's good advice, Bruce. Key is to try out this set up before going live, to see how much can be handled. Hopefully it won't be really windy.
 
It's a great mic, I have one and I've been using it for years now, and they're still available. It just fits in my zeppelin I use for my 416, if I remove the connector shell from the xlr, but the 416 fits the long housing I normally use the AT in. Are you certain it won't fit? If he's willing to part with it, grab it, they're really good and the battery option has saved my bacon quite a few times.
 
Hi Paul, thanks for the feedback. I'm sure the 8035 will fit in the Rycote blimp, because that's the combo my friend was using, I was just wondering whether the 8035 was obsolete or not, because for whatever reason, my friend gave up using it and uses a newer mic. But seeing as you say it's still quite usable, I'm satisfied.
 
FWIW, Some folks bought new Sennheiser MKH8060s to replace their 'obsolete' 416s.
Some of the early Sennheiser 8060 series mics had noise problems as well, which caused mucho aggravation to those buyers.
I have no immediate plans to replace mine.
 
Right, I mean, I understand that as long as the gear does a good enough job, then it's good enough. I do wonder what the natural followup from Audio-Technica was from the AT8035, what AT mic replaced it? Because it is my understanding that the 8035 was itself a replacement for the AT835.
 
Right, I mean, I understand that as long as the gear does a good enough job, then it's good enough. I do wonder what the natural followup from Audio-Technica was from the AT8035, what AT mic replaced it? Because it is my understanding that the 8035 was itself a replacement for the AT835.
Why do you think it has been replaced by something? The 8035 is still current. It replaced the earlier 835 due to some materials changes necessary to meet EU environmental standards and it remains part of AT's current lineup.
 
Oh, OK, thanks. I think my next step should be to test the 8035 and see how difficult it might be to operate (handling noise etc.) and its strengths and weaknesses vs the 875r I bought.
 
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