Audio Post-Production

[dlang]

it's not worth getting into on the boards...I've been a worship leader with very minimal and it got the job done.....I guess I hold to keeping things simple and putting the money where it counts aka...AIDS in Africa, sudan relief, heck even our own poverty problem here in the states, and I know there is some orphans and widows not getting what they need, but hey that's just me...ahh shoot I got into it I just can't keep my mouth shut with this stuff, I know I should probably learn. But hey on the flip side the techie in me has fun brain storming it with you, so I'll get back to talking about production stuff.

 

[Noiz2]

It makes you laugh? we have a praise team taking up 16-20 channels, and then you have the choir mics, the mics for the different speakers, and all of the different inputs for the stereo audio feeds. In short, about the same as any production involving a large musical group with a choir, emcees, and multiple music sources.

What probably makes him laugh is the idea of going to church and ending up in a high polish variety show. It's easy to go off on "what the heck has this got to do with church", but actually if you walk through a few cathedrals in europe it's obvious that "the show" has always been a part of the experience. It just seems a little weird. It doesn't fit with the traditional (probably more mythical) american image of going to church. Having production value, entertainment quality, and back end potentials discussions about church services clashes with the perception of what it's all about.
In a country constantly criticized for it's surface over substance choices it really shouldn't crack a smile that churches have higher end systems that most Broadway musicals.

 

[alekstef]

For the same reason audio recording studios don't record bands through a live sound mixer and only record the stereo channel: You can ALWAYS improve the product, and usually vastly, with editing and mixing during post production. I used to go to a church that had a setup just like what you're suggesting...and the sound on the video was always much worse than the quality of the video. I tried to get them to switch to an audio recording setup to accompany their video, but no luck.

Of course, if you are broadcasting live, then you don't have the luxury of post production. I've had years of experience running live sound, and I sure wouldn't want the job of trying to make live sound be as good as something mixed and edited.

That is just bullshit. If you have a good sound technician, this shouldn't be a problem. But you're right about recording every channel may help to improve the sound in post...

 

[ESTEBEVERDE]

it's not worth getting into on the boards...I've been a worship leader with very minimal and it got the job done.....I guess I hold to keeping things simple and putting the money where it counts aka...AIDS in Africa, sudan relief, heck even our own poverty problem here in the states, and I know there is some orphans and widows not getting what they need, but hey that's just me...ahh shoot I got into it I just can't keep my mouth shut with this stuff, I know I should probably learn. But hey on the flip side the techie in me has fun brain storming it with you, so I'll get back to talking about production stuff.

"It's O.K. Man!" :costumed-smiley-047

"Jesus Likes Shinny Stuffs!"

 

[Noiz2]

That is just bullshi*. If you have a good sound technician, this shouldn't be a problem. But you're right about recording every channel may help to improve the sound in post...

Well that's not 100%. The reason is that the mixer is mixing for the space. That may involve a bunch of room tuning EQ that will sound crappy if recorded and played back in your living room. So it's not so much the quality of the operator but how flat they can leave the sound. Also the live mix is for reenforcement. THe guy with the HUGE voice doesn't need much reinforcement but the quiet mumbler does. If you just take the board feed the mumbler will be really loud and you will hardly hear the BIG voice.

So while agree that there is no reason not to use a stereo mix, the house mix might not be a good choice to record.