Arri Amira goes 4K?

Maybe someone can answer this for me. I know the RED At 4K after the bayer process is really like 3.4-3.6k. So if the Arri is essentially an upscale from 3.2K (correct me if this is wrong) after the bayer process is it essentially 2.5k?
After deBayering, the max luminance resolution you'll get is generally taken to be about 75-80% of the sensor count in that direction. It's hard to give an exact figure since it tends to roll off and it depends at what point you draw the line.

For chrominance the resolution is much less, and maybe 50% is a good estimate though it varies depending on the colour. (Think about it. For a 1920x1080 HD Bayer sensor, you have 960x540 red and blue photosites. So point it at a saturated red or blue image, and what do you think is the maximum it will resolve.....?) There's more to it than that, concerning aliasing, and particularly colour aliasing, but we'll leave it at that.

The funny thing really is that it was Arri in particular who always (very rightly) stressed the importance of sensor resolution being much higher than output resolution. As the nofilmschool link says:
This is why single-sensor cameras wanting the highest fidelity have always started with recording more resolution for later (like ARRI's original 2.8K mode for 2K/1080p).
That seems to have been brushed under the carpet so they can use the 4k term in their marketing.

As for them saying nobody will see the difference with 4k, I think I read a very good paper from them going into the maths with the physics of the human eye. I think the (theoretical) conclusion was that for an average cinema, the back 50% won't be able to see any difference, sit nearer the front than midway, and 4k will make a difference.
 
Where have you been hiding?

All the other important features are also discussed elsewhere. But this thread is about the Amira getting 4k. Not about it's hi-light roll off and DR.

I don't have the slightest clue why is it essential to be an ass. Obviously I wasn't talking about this topic.
 
My take. My F3 looks OK upscaled to 4k, the Alexa shoots 3.5 raw which doubtless looks great at 4k, the amera has no raw out so best is to upscale onboard.

Here on the board we might care about if the camera can resolve 4000 lines before calling a cam '4k' but up in producer land they care about a sticker on the side that says 4k

Also in producer land they want 'future proof' (and doubtless netflix or suchlike will have a '4k' channel soon desperate for content) and the 4k sticker gives future proof.

This is not about the image it is about the brand and the relationship with producers.

Arri german tech of telling the truth (that the alexa does not resolve a lot less than Red) did not work - they have to join the bulls*%t party - which is a shame but the correct choice in an era where doubtless we will soon have '4k' phones that actually do about 720 on a test chart.

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This is another interesting development. 3.2K ProRes acquisition is coming to Alexa as yet another path to 4k through up-sampling. This will irritate even more people than the Open Gate upgrade since apparently this will be done it post going from 3.2K to UHD.

The inclusion of ProRes XQ in the camera looks pretty exciting. I wonder how it will hold up.

http://www.arri.com/news/news/new-alexa-prores-32k-for-uhd-tv/
 
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