SOLD ARRI 300w 650w Fresnel 300 650 Combo Light Kit Heavy Duty Case with Wheels $500

[The Dude Lives]

$500 LIKE NEW, incredible condition, everything is included that came with the lights when sold new, Arri 300 / 650 Watt Fresnel Lighting Kit and Heavy Duty Hard Case with wheels. 300W is designed to gather as much light as possible and direct it through the 3.2" (80mm) low expansion, borosillicate fresnel lens producing a soft, even field of light. The 650W Fresnel features the same lens, reflector, housing and power cord as the 300W Fresnel. The beam angle in the flood position is 52degrees, and a narrow 14.5degrees in the spot position.
This is a complete Arri 120 Volt 4 Fresnel light Kit. Use the barndoor and scrim sets to alter the shape and intensity of the lights. Store everything, including the light stands, with the wheeled, heavy duty ABS plastic case.
Original price was $3,300

How about $500 plus shipping?

• Features:
  • Light Shapers
  • Use the barndoors, filter frames and scrims to alter the shape, color and intensity of the lights.
  • Accessory Kit
  • Includes a ditty bag, clothes pins, bulb storage case, 3- outlet extension cord, and heat-resistant gloves.
  • Light Spread
  • The Arri Fresnel 300 produces a soft, even field of light.
  • Large Lens
  • The Arri Fresnel 650's each have a 4.3" (110 mm) low expansion, borosilicate Fresnel lens.
  • Light Stands
  • Offer lightweight, yet sturdy support
  • Wheeled, Heavy Duty Case
  • Hard shell plastic, aluminum trim, latches and piano hinge, fixed interior dividers. Easy storage and transport.
  
  
• Item Includes:
  • 2 x 300W Fresnels
  • 2 x 4 Leaf Barndoor Sets
  • 2 x Filter Frames
  • 2 x Full 5" Full Single Scrims
  • 2 x Full 5" Full Double Scrims
  • 2 x FKW 300W Bulbs
  • 2 x 650W Fresnels
  • 2 x 4 Leaf Barndoor Sets
  • 2 x Filter Frames
  • 2 x Full 6-5/8" Single Scrims
  • 2 x Full 6-5/8" Double Scrims
  • 2 x FRK 650W Bulbs
  • 4 x AS-2 Stands
  • Accessory pack
  • Heavy duty case

 

[DustinSchmidt]

Wow, I remember when this kit was an essential package. Amazing how far lighting technology has come really.

 

[The Dude Lives]

This is how this type of light is used today on set: to give soft, even light, or narrow the beam to produce a hard light for something dramatic. Spot light, 3-point lighting setup, high and low-key lighting.

 

[CharlesPapert]

This is how this type of light is used today on set: to give soft, even light, or narrow the beam to produce a hard light for something dramatic.

The kit speaks for itself, and there is a resurgence of popularity in using tungsten lighting particularly on faces. However, this statement doesn't check out. The only way a fresnel unit will deliver soft light is if it is modified with diffusion i.e. in a Chimera, or used as a bounce, where an open face unit will be a better choice as it has more efficient output.

 

[The Dude Lives]

The kit speaks for itself, and there is a resurgence of popularity in using tungsten lighting particularly on faces. However, this statement doesn't check out. The only way a fresnel unit will deliver soft light is if it is modified with diffusion i.e. in a Chimera, or used as a bounce, where an open face unit will be a better choice as it has more efficient output.

You are correct. A soft light effect would require some type of diffusion technique. The kit is useful, versatile, and travels extremely well under harsh conditions.

 

[The Dude Lives]

A bit more about soft light:
The primary characteristic of a Fresnel light is its ability to produce a soft, even wash of light across a wide area. Fresnel lights can be focused to create a narrow spotlight or diffused floodlight depending on the desired effect. Due to their soft light quality, Fresnel lights are commonly used in film productions for key lighting, fill lights, and backlighting.

 

[CharlesPapert]

The primary characteristic of a Fresnel light is its ability to produce a soft, even wash of light...

...Due to their soft light quality...

I'm starting to feel like you are trolling with this. You agreed that Fresnels are not a soft light, and then you continued on to describe it multiple times as such.

Fresnels categorically produce hard light, the shadows are crisp and well defined and the light can be cleanly cut via gobos. It's just confusing to describe any facet of the light from a Fresnel as being "soft".

 

[The Dude Lives]

I'm starting to feel like you are trolling with this. You agreed that Fresnels are not a soft light, and then you continued on to describe it multiple times as such.

Fresnels categorically produce hard light, the shadows are crisp and well defined and the light can be cleanly cut via gobos. It's just confusing to describe any facet of the light from a Fresnel as being "soft".

Not trolling, I simply asked microsoft AI "describe Fresnel light." I am not claiming to be an expert, at all. ARRI calls it "softbank kit" and describes the lights as capable of producing hard or soft light. This quote is directly from ARRI description: "300W is designed to gather as much light as possible and direct it through the 3.2" (80mm) low expansion, borosillicate fresnel lens producing a soft, even field of light." I can admit if I am wrong. I see you are a Director of Photography so I would defer to your expert opinion. I am an accountant.

 

[CharlesPapert]

Ok, understood. That wording from Arri is pretty bizarre, they should know better. As far as "softbank kit", that refers to a different configuration that includes a softbox, aka Chimera. This iteration is called the Arri 300/650 Fresnel Combo Kit and does not include a softbox.

 

[morgan_moore]

I understand this is a for sale thread. I like the sound of this kit. I feel commenting on the design is somewhat off topic.. but..

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It may be considered that and even field of light may be.,. well if one lights from -1 to +1 along a wall where 0 is the centre point then if the light level is at L at -1,0 and +1 then the beam could be considered even.. even though at -2 or +2 we see no light and the illmunation could be described by some as 'spotty' or non evenly illuminated.

We may see that modern LED reflectors seem to make an uneven beam, in fact are tuned to do so, to acheive a high lumens value when metered only at the cener spot.

A 'spot' light could be considered to have an even beam and a fresnel fixture is far more likely to acheive that than an 'open face' fixture

Obviously.

 

[paulears]

I always notice how the specific user base often things and describe their attributes so differently. In TV and film, Fresnel lenses are usually described as harder light useful for use as a key light - then softlight will be bigger physically and softened further with more diffuser. In theatre we describe Fresnels as having lovely soft beams and remark how well they blend together, and we then use other types for our hard light. I discovered years ago that the best in terms of beam quality for washing stages evenly and being kind to faces were a couple of 1 and 2K Fresnels from Strand - wide beam angle range from spot to flood and really nice looking. Strand 223/743 1K and 243 2K. Oddly they were both also sold in the TV version with pole operation - so they had two different users. Then I discovered the Arris of all powers could do the same thing - I now have all my Arri 1Ks above a theatre stage. They do such a good job.

 

[CharlesPapert]

It gets complicated if one starts thinking of "soft" and "hard" as referring to a quality of light. They each have their purpose and one is not necessarily better or worse than the other. Fresnels deliver clean, crisp shadows, where open face units by the nature of the reflector usually have multiple small shadows. Evenness of beam spread and gentle falloff on the edges are qualities shared by Fresnels and soft light sources, but the effect of the light is remarkably different.

I can see how the preference to use soft light on faces in the past 50 years or so has perhaps created a paradigm of "soft=good/pretty, hard=bad/harsh", somewhat comparable to the current vogue of referring to optically clean lenses as "clinical/boring" vs other lenses described as "character/interesting". Hard light isn't a bad thing, it's exactly the right thing for the specific purpose intended. We used a 1K fresnel with no diffusion as the key light for my film noir short last year and it was just right (if power and speed wasn't an issue, I would have preferred at least a 2K if not 5K for the greater diameter Fresnel lens) but it was the correct choice to emulate the period look, and I love the results.

 

[paulears]

Beam quality is really the deciding factor. In the UK we had a brief spell where we had ‘colouvred’ Fresnel lenses. This probably works with the British spelling of color. The steps of the Fresnel lens were blackened with a paint type application. The claim was it helped spill. Testing them, we struggled to see the difference. Diffusion seems to also be so personal. Lee and Rosco offer so many different ones the combination of lens diameter and type of diffuser offer so much choice. I suppose we should also consider how distance impacts too. 10” at one distance compared with 6” closer. My studio is not huge, and I've discovered a small lens key and LED panels work better for me than any of the bigger kit in the collection. I found two redheads and a blond in the store and forgot how crazy light levels used to be, and how annoying those sheets of diffuser on the barn doors were. Fifteen minutes and they were off and packed away again.

 

[The Dude Lives]

SOLD.