Are you guys still waiting on GH1 keeping your eye on the 7D?

Chris Watson said:
Couldn't say it better myself. I'm amazed at all the buyer's remorse going on here. There will always be something better a month to 3 months from now. That's just the march of progress. A thing to keep in mind is that with prices so low for the quality you're getting, there's no need to choose a camera any more. Just get them all. If you got the GH1 and a 7D, you'd still be paying less than if you went for an EX1 with some starter memory cards. Perspective folks.
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EXACTLY!

That's what ebay's for. If your current product is no longer "cutting edge", dump it and get the new one. Assuming, of course, that you NEED "cutting edge". A new product coming out doesn't make your existing product stop working, after all!

Old, old story (well, 3 years old) but my HVX200 was paid off after the first job I got with it. It became "free" from that point on. I could sell it at any time and put the money towards the next thing (which, I eventually did, getting a 170). But it was "free" for almost three years.

People have to remember that an HVX rents for $250 per DAY. So if you use it for a year, then take a $1500 loss when you sell it -- that's a year's use for the cost of six days of rental!

So, if you like what you've got, keep using it. If you're in the business of being hired as an owner/operator and have to have the latest and greatest equipment to keep getting hired, buy the latest and greatest -- $1700 for a 7D isn't a tremendous amount of money to someone who's in business. Look at Philip Bloom, he's got more cameras than just about anyone. Buy what you need, use it, and if you no longer need it or it's no longer doing the job for you, sell it and upgrade.

And get used to that cycle, by the way, because new product introductions appear to be speeding up.
 
Technology accelerates and there is no way of keeping on top of it. When I picked up the GH1 I thought was good for me and really have no desire to look at others until I've actually gotten good use out of this one. I would get nowhere if I spent all my time looking at the new features on the latest toys. There are people that collect cameras and have to have all the latest goodies and don't really make anything at all with them. Then there are others that have one camera or maybe have to borrow one and make works of art with it. Neither is bad. There are talkers and there are doers. I always say if there are no talkers then how would the doers know what to do? And if there were no doers what would the talkers talk about? ;)
 
I'm not interested in the 7D now. I want Panasonic to allow me to exchange my GH1 for one that doesn't have streaking and I want them to increase the bitrate. If not then I'll be interested in the 7D.
 
Canon claims on German site that the Dual DIGIC 4-processors improve lowlight ability considering noise and says that color and luminance noise at 6400 ISO corresponds to ISO 1.600 with DIGIC III processor.

I don't know if this counts for video mode as well though
 
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I'm sort of in a unique position. I just bought my GH1 this weekend, so it's still returnable. And honestly if Panasonic had given any indication they were going to fix the codec (the weakest of any DSLR as far as I know), then I would probably actually keep it. But since I can return it w/o penalty and the 7D has most of the pluses of the GH1 with only a few minuses, I'm having a hard time not justifying the swap.

Oh, and unlike many others here, I don't do this for $$, I do it as a hobby 'cause it's a blast!
 
Some would say that since it’s a hobby for you …you should keep your GH-1. But I say…”go for broke.”
 
Boz said:
I'm sort of in a unique position. I just bought my GH1 this weekend, so it's still returnable. And honestly if Panasonic had given any indication they were going to fix the codec (the weakest of any DSLR as far as I know), then I would probably actually keep it. But since I can return it w/o penalty and the 7D has most of the pluses of the GH1 with only a few minuses, I'm having a hard time not justifying the swap.

Oh, and unlike many others here, I don't do this for $$, I do it as a hobby 'cause it's a blast!
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you obviously have never done anything with the nikons codec. why'd you get the gh1 in the first place? you were adamant for the longest time that the gh1 wasn't for you. you guys flip flop more than John Kerry.
 
Car3o said:
you obviously have never done anything with the nikons codec.
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You're right, I haven't used Nikon's codec which is why I caveated with 'as far as I know'.


Car3o said:
why'd you get the gh1 in the first place? you were adamant for the longest time that the gh1 wasn't for you. you guys flip flop more than John Kerry.
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Whatever dude. Cheap shots and labeling aside, the reason I got the GH1 because it was the camera that fit my needs best at the time. Was it perfect? No. But it was the best comprise in my price range. Had I known the 7D was going to have the features it has at the price it is I wouldn't have bothered with the GH1. Now that I see what the 7D has to offer, it's a better fit for me than the GH1. I have a chance to rectify that situation, I just bought the GH1, I can return it for full credit - something I'm sure many here wish they had the chance to do... is that really flip-flopping? Are all the people who are going to sell their 5Dii's to get 7Ds flip floppers as well? And the main reason for getting rid of the GH1 remains consistant with what I've said since day one: GH1 codec = crap. I have never flopped on that.
 
Everybody keeps saying that the GH1 codec=crap yet there are plenty of great stuff shot with it already. If you are a pro, and I mean it in the sense that you are really good at it, you will get great stuff from the GH1. If you are not really good at it you won't. It is as simple as that.
 
That issue should definitely not be overblown -- the GH1 is capable of some *stellar* results. What Jack and I got with Vincent Pascoe down in Texas looks G R E A T. There's nothing at its price point that comes within a hundred miles of the GH1.
 
the gh1 body(red) costs $600.00(in Japan) the speculative price for the 7d body is $1600.00...I'd say that's at least a hundred miles.
But i would walk 500 miles...And i would walk 500 more...Just to be the man who walked 5,000 miles...To fall down at your door...la la la..lalala
 
Boz said:
You're right, I haven't used Nikon's codec which is why I caveated with 'as far as I know'.




Whatever dude. Cheap shots and labeling aside, the reason I got the GH1 because it was the camera that fit my needs best at the time. Was it perfect? No. But it was the best comprise in my price range. Had I known the 7D was going to have the features it has at the price it is I wouldn't have bothered with the GH1. Now that I see what the 7D has to offer, it's a better fit for me than the GH1. I have a chance to rectify that situation, I just bought the GH1, I can return it for full credit - something I'm sure many here wish they had the chance to do... is that really flip-flopping? Are all the people who are going to sell their 5Dii's to get 7Ds flip floppers as well? And the main reason for getting rid of the GH1 remains consistant with what I've said since day one: GH1 codec = crap. I have never flopped on that.
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sure man, but don't be upset when another camera comes out and you're saying "ah man too bad i got the 7d because the newest camera that just came out is way better". because they way these camera's are churning out, time is irrelevant.
 
GH1 kit in europe is about 1500€, 7d is 1700€. That's not 100 miles but probably just because in europe everything is smaller ;)
 
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I wish Panasonic would simply take the GH-1 type system tweak better and put it into a HPX 170 form, with audio inputs, selectable gyro stabilizer (with the detachable lens of course), filters, etc... and market that. From what I recall that is what everyone howled about 6 years ago and it has yet to be delivered!

I'm worn out from waiting for the most obvious design to arrive (see old archived material on what we want)... yes, this has gotten really old and basically hopeless... it also proves you can be in business and be clueless.
 
patience!

patience!

You guys are just getting a taste of what we video people have been getting screwed with for 25-30 years---you sink your money into one thing, and six months later it's a boat anchor. This DSLR/HD technology is moving so fast you will never be able to keep up with it. Get used to it gentlemen. Game on!
 
10s said:
I wish Panasonic would simply take the GH-1 type system tweak better and put it into a HPX 170 form, with audio inputs, selectable gyro stabilizer (with the detachable lens of course), filters, etc... and market that. From what I recall that is what everyone howled about 6 years ago and it has yet to be delivered!

I'm worn out from waiting for the most obvious design to arrive (see old archived material on what we want)... yes, this has gotten really old and basically hopeless... it also proves you can be in business and be clueless.
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http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=180711

The GHX-100.
 
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