Are you guys still waiting on GH1 keeping your eye on the 7D?

There is a difference. The AVCHD implementation in the HMC150 is substantially better than the AVCHD implementation in the GH1.
 
Barry_Green said:
There is a difference. The AVCHD implementation in the HMC150 is substantially better than the AVCHD implementation in the GH1.
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Thanks Barry, although thats not what I was hoping to hear.
At least I can start experimenting with a hdslr tomorrow and I'll see what happens. When the 7d comes out I will probably sell the gh1 for a loss and get it, just in time for some new and improved camera to come out.
Then the cycle begins again.
SELL
BUY
REPEAT
 
Looking at the Canon footage on this page the codec really doesn't look that good, very fuzzy, blocky, chunky, muddy, dirty, take your pick. (on top of that the filmer doesn't really seem to know what he's doing...I see shutter speed issues, ghosting, and rolling shutter.) For all those currently measurebating I'd say wait till you actually see some good footage out of the thing before you jump ship. But I guess you're probably safe putting in a preorder.

I'm just happy to see video people are stoked on all these cameras, they're getting a bad rap for doing video from a lot of photography elitists on various forums.
 
As an event videographer, the 12 minute time limit kills the 7D for me. Who wants to fiddle with the camera during the ceremony or a long toast? I can see if you're doing other kinds of video work that the 7D is a gamechanger. My hope is that it'll translate into resellers lowering their prices for the GH1. Something I can see with the 7D competing for that market segment. Fingers crossed for a $1299 (or lower) GH1 soon!
 
Just called the camera store. They will take back my GH1 in exchange for the forthcoming 7D. I have a few days to think about it. Honestly if Panasonic had given ANY indication that they were going to fix their broken codec on the GH1 I'd probably keep it. But with the robust codec, extreme low-light capability, multiple speeds, excellent stills capability, and the ability to use my existing Canon glass on the 7D, it's hard to pass up. Sorry Panasonic you had your chance (I signed the petition and emailed them a half dozen times - never getting a response).
 
Looking at the Canon footage on this page the codec really doesn't look that good, very fuzzy, blocky, chunky, muddy, dirty, take your pick.
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None of the above, both samples from the Canon website look absolutely stunning.
 
The 7D footage that's out there now reminds me of what the D90 video looked like, minus the extreme jello and mega stair-stepping of course.

I'll be hanging onto the GH1 till the 7D arrives and weigh the pros/cons then when I can do a side-by-side shootout.
 
Wow….not even close. Which footage did you see? If you are talking about the Vimeo footage…then whoever uploaded that did it in lower res. Check out the footage on Canon’s site called “The Passage”…the D90 comes no where close to that. Like John said..."it's stunning."
 
Ben_B said:
Looking at the Canon footage on this page the codec really doesn't look that good, very fuzzy, blocky, chunky, muddy, dirty, take your pick.
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I agree with John, I think it's great and very promising considering the footage has obviously not been recorded properly.
And I don't think the codec can be any worse than 500D and 5DII.
 
I'm watching Line of Sight and The Passage. They both have stuttery terrible shutter speed issues and ghosting caused by the filmer not knowing what they were doing. The codec is really blocky and gross on high movement stuff. Everything is kind of jaggy and falling appart. There is rolling shutter on areas with motion. The last part of line of sight looks decent, but everything else seems really washed out, muddy, and D90esque (and I already thought of D90 footage as kind of like HD cellphone footage with Nikon glass strapped ot the front.)

Maybe some of this can be blamed on the web, maybe not, but as many of us are doing a lot of web work that's problematic. I've noticed with the GH1 that web uploading can actually hide a lot of the problems (especially if you're not watching full screen) rather than aggravating them.

I really think the GH1's codec issues are overblown. The 5D has excellent implementation, but this 7D stuff doesn't look anywhere close to the way the 5D footage does in terms of the way the codec seems to hold up, and so I am highly skeptical of it as a video camera until I see more footage. I bought the Gh1 despite the known issues because people were putting out amazing footage with it, and if this crap is the best that Canon marketing can do (note that the Philip Bloom Joshua tree video made for Panny is often one of the first linked Gh1 videos of a perspective buyer...the videos made to sell the camera should represent the best of what the camera is capable of) then they're in serious serious trouble.

I'm sure the camera is capable of better, but if it's coming out of canon we should be able to see that by now, and we haven't, which gives me pause.
 
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it doesn't matter what camera people buy, because the majority of you's will do just that, just keep buying camera's and talk about how it'll improve your filmmaking. i get a kick out of "doh, i guess I'll have to buy this camera to make me movies better".
 
Ben_B said:
The 5D has excellent implementation, but this 7D stuff doesn't look anywhere close to the way the 5D footage does in terms of the way the codec seems to hold up, and so I am highly skeptical of it as a video camera until I see more footage.
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Not sure about codec performance but sensor seems very capable. Low light from 7D looks on-par or better than 5D which is quite strange to me.
 
Car3o said:
it doesn't matter what camera people buy, because the majority of you's will do just that, just keep buying camera's and talk about how it'll improve your filmmaking. i get a kick out of "doh, i guess I'll have to buy this camera to make me movies better".
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True enough. And a new camera coming out doesn't make yours any worse. If it does in your mind than you probably shouldn't have bought the other one in the first place.
 
Car3o said:
it doesn't matter what camera people buy, because the majority of you's will do just that, just keep buying camera's and talk about how it'll improve your filmmaking. i get a kick out of "doh, i guess I'll have to buy this camera to make me movies better".
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Couldn't say it better myself. I'm amazed at all the buyer's remorse going on here. There will always be something better a month to 3 months from now. That's just the march of progress. A thing to keep in mind is that with prices so low for the quality you're getting, there's no need to choose a camera any more. Just get them all. If you got the GH1 and a 7D, you'd still be paying less than if you went for an EX1 with some starter memory cards. Perspective folks.
 
a camera might not improve your filmmaking but it does influence your final work and also workflow on the set. Of course it matters what camera you buy, especially if it's your own money
 
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