Are you guys still waiting on GH1 keeping your eye on the 7D?

And....

Max file size per clip 4GB, max duration 29min 59sec, Running time 12 min for 1080P, 12 min for 720P, 24 min for VGA
Hmm, not sure what they mean by "running time", but there do seem to be some odd restrictions here which could affect people doing event stuff.
 
And....

• Remote live view using EOS Utility 2.0 (via USB or WiFi/Ethernet using WFT)

according to the DPReview preview report.
 
Thinking about this whole live view lcd vs proper viewfinder thing, I just tried pointing the GH1 at the 22" PC monitor at my normal viewing distance, and keeping my other eye open. The size of the viewfinder in my right eye almost exactly overlays the image of the 22" inch monitor in my left eye - in other words, the angle traversed by your eye when going from the left side of the GH1 viewfinder to the right side is the same as it would traverse if looking from the left to right side of a 22" monitor at a normal viewing distance.

In effect, looking in the GH1 viewfinder is the same experience as looking at a 22" monitor.

To get the same experience from its LCD (or that of any other DSLR LCD) you'd have to hold the LCD about four inches from your eye, which in my case is somewhat too close for my eye to focus on.

IMHO a viewfinderless video camera is severely hobbled from the outset particularly for manual focus, even with focussing aids.
 
My goodness we have a Canon fanboy in here, don't we?

My only comment about the camera itself is that Canon finally adopted the nice matte and flat buttons like that on the Nikons. I've never understood how anyone could've put up with those fidgety slippery buttons on a Canon SLR! Canon actually takes pride of it as part of their design trademark for SLRs.

Ben_B, love the comment about marketing. In that same vein, video DSLR technology implementation is similar to how Canon and Nikon implement new stuff. Nikon takes a shot at it (F3AF, D1, D90 for AF, digital, and video respectively), Canon comes and creams them for a bit, and a few years later they come up with very competitive models, either in technical specifications or in the marketplace.
 
Ben_B said:
I'd say the shot near the end of the theatre that racks in from bokeh is an example of how the codec can have some problems, especially when grading, but part of the reason was that that was 720p and zoomed in quite a bit to do image stabilization in post. I was running and gunning. For most narrative work I'm going to have a tripod or some other stabilizer.
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Well, on the Vimeo clip, it looked good enough to me. Loved the pizza shot towards in the end. Had me chuckling. :D
 
There's an interesting rumor that Nikon seems to work on a kinda "Raw" Codec for it's video, similar to it's NEF for stills. It's from the same nikon rumors source that talked about a FF 1080p video dslr some weeks ago which appears to be true
Let's hope...
 
the 7d is just out of my price range, if it were 1600 with a lens I would go for it. Probably the GH1 for me.
 
ramdop said:
" A half-press of the shutter button or a press of the AF-ON button will trigger the AF. AE lock is possible as well."

that mean it has AF in video

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos7d/page3.asp
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Well, the 5D Mk II has this feature as well, but it isn't quite the same as AF on the GH1. Pressing the button either flaps the mirror up, focuses, and then returns to Live View, or the image gets way bright and wavvy as it live focuses. So... "Yes" there is AF during video, but its not really usable while shooting, only to set focus before shooting. Or at least that is all I have personally managed to find it useful for.
 
Hmmm.... I'm really torn here. i JUST bought GH1 this weekend. I have 10 days to return it (store credit) so I could put myself on the list for a 7D... what to do, what to do...
 
I've had my GH1 for almost a month and it is by far the most fun and useful camera I have ever owned. With old nikkors and tiny little c-mount lenses I feel like I'm walking around with a S16mm camera with an infinite roll of film and no processing fees.

But I pre-ordered the 7D last night as soon as Amazon listed it. Bitrate, bitrate, bitrate. If Panasonic somehow releases firmware soon that increases the bitrate, I'll cancel the 7D. Even with the hassle of reversing pulldown, the GH1 has so many great features for video (c-mount lenses, flipout lcd, great mic for ambient sound) that I didn't know I cared about until I got them.

Luckily, we live in a world where ebay will give us back most of any investment in camera and lenses so we can experiment. I plan to follow whatever camera gives me the highest quality 24 fps images.
 
Amazing to me that the 7D has 18mpbs--we were told for months that the GH1 17mbps wouldn't hold up with lots of grading. Really? I think not!
 
chrisccw said:
Amazing to me that the 7D has 18mpbs--
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...I'm confused. The video is more like 47Mbps on the 7D.

I think maybe you’re confusing it with having 18 Megapixels and not Mbps. It’s data rate is almost 3 times that of the GH-1.
 
In the released pics, I do not see a stereo mic..........am I missing something ? Also, I'm not to excited about the design....it still looks like all other (ugly as sin) DSLR cameras.
 
ajamils said:
In the released pics, I do not see a stereo mic..........am I missing something ? Also, I'm not to excited about the design....it still looks like all other (ugly as sin) DSLR cameras.
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The 7D has a mono mic. But it has a stereo mic input jack.
 
most of the best gh1 footage is with mf non-pana lenses

most of the best gh1 footage is with mf non-pana lenses

therefore you can rule the af out as a reason to buy to the gh1! also, most of the best gh1 footage is on a tripod or stabiliser, therefore you can rule the rolling shutter out too, that leaves us with the evf, this could be a reason but you'd need to weigh that up against the size of the 7d against the gh1 too. For many casual users the gh1 is more than enough but I can well believe unless the gh1 bitrate and mud is sorted that many will choose the 7d, and use a remote monitor or custom hood for the lcd.
 
my gh1 should arrive tomorrow. I am torn a little my this announcement but, I will have something to shoot with tomorrow that from what I have seen produces pretty amazing images in the right hands. I can always sell it for a few bucks loss and buy the 7d down the road if it proves to be the beast it is being made out to be already.
The main problem I hear is the codec issue with the gh1. I already have an hmc150 with avchd so is there a difference between the way the hmc and the gh1 processes the codec or will gh1 footage be the same as my hmc. I am asking because for my needs the hmc footage has held very well for me and I am happy with it. Basically is there going to be a drop in durability of the avchd footage from the gh1 as compared to the hmc?
 
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