are you also sick of the hate going on in some threads?

[Gary Huff]

While yes, these camera debates often get a bit "intense" you could say, it also doesn't mean that just because someone uses a DSLR over a high-end camera, that they are an amateur.

No, but if they argue their DSLR puts out an image that's every bit as good as an Epic, they are an amateur.

 

[stefanhuberfilms]

I wouldn't say "hate."

I think the Canon C300 and C100 threads are an excellent case in point.

That thread was one of the reasons why i made my mind up to start this thread..

I appreciate all the replies here!

Hahaha that illustration from Erik says it all... LOL

On the whole, the reason of the mood here could be the possibility that almost everybody can be a "filmmaker or so" these days, its not seen like anything special anymore, so opinions are pretty wide spread, as well as the wannabe fact opinions - is this to be understood? lol... But thats the digital world i guess.

On the whole, i am pretty satisfied that we all share quite the same opinions about this topic...

Thanks again for you answers!

 

[paulears]

I think that internet forums are also places where some people don't quite understand how things are done. The old way would be people read forums for a while, sometimes a long time and used them to get different viewpoints before deciding on their own, but now we have new members join, post in what they assume is a sensible style, not realising that their question has been covered over and over again, and then some people get narked they didn't even bother to search. Others with less or faulty information make their point, then everyone tells them they're wrong, and they get fed up. Often the mods can't do very much because the rules haven't been broken at all. Some folk seem to take any dissent from their own opinion as some kind of attack, and very rarely is the reply meant as an attack at all. It's down to perception. Folk who have English as a second language also have a problem because they perhaps can't ask their question in a way we can really understand. We even get this between UK and US English. Not so much on this forum, but others, people get very hot on spelling, punctuation and grammar - which often fails in translation. When discussing sound, I always use "miked" rather than "mic'ed" which many people use. I don't care - because I've used my way of spelling for years, and although I never attempt to convince others my way is correct, I'll never use the other one - and I can almost feel the anger it seems to cause some people.

Today somebody asked a question, but didn't realise they did not provide enough hard information in the post, and other people simply could not provide accurate answers because they didn't understand. The original poster couldn't understand the responses and it didn't go very far. Some people make it clear where they are with accurate locations - others don't. Only rarely do posts make me cross nowadays, usually when I see good advice being given, and set aside because the OP is set on a course of events and is not willing to change them. They really want people to post back and say, yes, you're right - carry on. When we say STOP - you've got it all wrong, they take this as negativity - when it's not. As an example, I really respect John Willett's opinion on sound matters - but it doesn't mean we always agree. Sometimes on forums in the past, we've had quite opposite views, and I don't think either of us has ever felt bad about it - but sometimes on a forum people really get angry when their viewpoint is questioned, as if it's some personal slight - which it very rarely is.

All this said - very few of us know each other, so people can say what they think. They must however expect that others may disagree strongly. Some people MUST be right 100% of the time. Few of us really ever are!

Some people are simply a bit 'abrasive' - deal with it! The mods help by keeping control when things really get steamy, but it's better to just stand back and leave others to judge.

 

[Alex H.]

It kind of seems like a lot of the time people come on here looking for feedback on work that is frankly bad, and then when they get negative feedback they get butthurt about it, and now no one gives feedback because what's the point of giving feedback no one is going to listen to anyway? So now there's all these posts shouting into a vacuum.

"Negative feedback" is the buzzword here, though.

It's one thing to post work and have another member come in and say nothing more than, "That sucks. You need to find a new hobby/career." And yes, that has happened too often. But truly constructive criticism is, more often than not, met with patient understanding from the OP. It's a difference between, "Well, THAT sucked," and , "Here's what I liked about it, and here are the trouble spots and suggestions to improve them." Negative tears down, constructive builds up. Which would you rather hear?

We're also in a place where lots of people are quick to post negative feedback and tell others why "your video sucks", but never post anything of their own.