Are DSLR's better than the RED EPIC? This video shows the proof!
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Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
I'm sold.
Guess I'll sell my Epic.
Guess I'll sell my Epic.
wgzn
Veteran
this video is pretty much the equivalent of comparing a digibeta to a high-end svhs in about 1996.
same general differences in image quality. same disparity in target user.
the only similarity between a 7d and an epic is they are both CMOS cameras with rolling shutter.
there is a WORLD of difference in the image and SO much variable that you dont see.
and those variables are what $18,000 extra dollars afford you.
can you visually tell a story as well with a 7d as you can with an epic? CERTAINLY.
is the image of the same quality? absolutely not even in the same ballpark.
will the differences matter?
- to people who understand the differences AND to clients who's expectations and budgets can afford an epic: CERTAINLY.
- to me personally, for my uses and client budgets: not really.
same general differences in image quality. same disparity in target user.
the only similarity between a 7d and an epic is they are both CMOS cameras with rolling shutter.
there is a WORLD of difference in the image and SO much variable that you dont see.
and those variables are what $18,000 extra dollars afford you.
can you visually tell a story as well with a 7d as you can with an epic? CERTAINLY.
is the image of the same quality? absolutely not even in the same ballpark.
will the differences matter?
- to people who understand the differences AND to clients who's expectations and budgets can afford an epic: CERTAINLY.
- to me personally, for my uses and client budgets: not really.
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Ryan Patrick O'Hara
Veteran
Wait, what? This video does a good job showing how talent matters over camera, but if a person had talent and put the thought and care you point out into designing the shot, yet they had a choice between these two cameras, the Epic is a better camera technically. The title of this thread is very misleading and inaccurate to the message.
Epic has more latitude, more resolution, color fidelity, less rolling shutter effects, more frames per second options, in camera image settings, HDRX, focus/exposure/ tools, metadata, jamsync, HDSDI-out, shutter sync, and the list goes on and on.
If price is a factor or the camera needs to fit within a small space, ok, I see the very specific advantages a DSLR has, but you are mixing up your points here. Your point is that it's the man behind the camera more than it is the camera, which I agree. The other point is that using the camera available to you now, is likely good enough if you have talent and to not waste your time wanting or pining for a better camera... I agree with that, too. However, I don't see why anyone would switch from an Epic to a 7D just because they have talent enough to make a 7D look decent.
But it's good to see you back on the boards.
-ryan
edit: you think it was April Fools? haha, not a very good one.
Epic has more latitude, more resolution, color fidelity, less rolling shutter effects, more frames per second options, in camera image settings, HDRX, focus/exposure/ tools, metadata, jamsync, HDSDI-out, shutter sync, and the list goes on and on.
If price is a factor or the camera needs to fit within a small space, ok, I see the very specific advantages a DSLR has, but you are mixing up your points here. Your point is that it's the man behind the camera more than it is the camera, which I agree. The other point is that using the camera available to you now, is likely good enough if you have talent and to not waste your time wanting or pining for a better camera... I agree with that, too. However, I don't see why anyone would switch from an Epic to a 7D just because they have talent enough to make a 7D look decent.
But it's good to see you back on the boards.
-ryan
edit: you think it was April Fools? haha, not a very good one.
Really?!!!? How much?
J Davis
Veteran
Good video, bad thread title. Tom ( polcan99 ) the red cam vs other cam is a wel trodden and much argued road especially on dvxuser and reduser.
You're fanning the flames to your own detriment. Keep making videos though because I like most of what you do
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also you neglected to mention cinema eos cam's which is IMO the perfect middle ground
You're fanning the flames to your own detriment. Keep making videos though because I like most of what you do
EDIT:
also you neglected to mention cinema eos cam's which is IMO the perfect middle ground
CharlesPapert
Director of Photography
I agree very much that is about the person behind the camera. And then all decisions become a matter of taste. My taste leads me to suggest that if one is picking the pool cue rack cabinet as a background vs the stereo (sure, good choice), then I wouldn't position the subject so that she is blocking most of that background. Also, having that aggressive blue backlight on the subject without it being picked up on other surfaces in the frame makes it feel unmotivated to me. Again, all subjects of personal taste but the message is sound: don't just plonk the camera down, look around for the best elements and frame thoughtfully.