Peter C.
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Good idea. I'll check that out
Apple dumps Intel and shows Final Cut Pro on new Mac with Apple CPU !
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I am in the same position, I order the Apple accessory a Thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter to connect to my thunderbolt RAID and Thunderbolt monitor. I will use the HDMI output to connect to a second monitor.
Speaking to a friend yesterday, who knows a friend a developer for a relatively well-known product. He was told hold off on buying for as long as you can. You ain't seen nothing yet regarding what's coming down the line.
you start piecing together the signals and it's hard to shake the idea that the x86/PC era is going to rapidly come to a close and Apple in particular is uniquely positioned to capitalize on it. for last few years hackers have basically cracked the core security architecture of Intel PCs: things like Meltdown, Spectre, Rowhammer are nation/megacorp level efforts and the decisions by Intel and others many years ago have created vulnerabilities for IT of large corporations & governments - all the way down to hundreds of millions of consumer PCs - that is probably a lot worse than people realize.
given the recent SolarWinds hacks, I would bet that preparation for Russia/China/friends to have the ability to wipe out a gigantic portion of this infrastructure if they saw fit; is largely complete (at least the kind of level we really haven't seen from a focused set of actors with motivations beyond making quick cash). apple moves to ditch intel entirely onto making as many of their chips that they can themselves. makes sense on a lot of levels for them regardless, but interesting timing
intel is struggling to compete already and is only dominant in servers/hpc, they have no mobile/low power strategy. whether the hacker/vulnerability angle is as possible as I assume, organizations and individuals are probably going to decide to abandon the Micro-Intel duopoly we've seen since the early 90s (and had already been doing so separate from all this anyways) because of looming risks
given the recent SolarWinds hacks, I would bet that preparation for Russia/China/friends to have the ability to wipe out a gigantic portion of this infrastructure if they saw fit; is largely complete (at least the kind of level we really haven't seen from a focused set of actors with motivations beyond making quick cash). apple moves to ditch intel entirely onto making as many of their chips that they can themselves. makes sense on a lot of levels for them regardless, but interesting timing
intel is struggling to compete already and is only dominant in servers/hpc, they have no mobile/low power strategy. whether the hacker/vulnerability angle is as possible as I assume, organizations and individuals are probably going to decide to abandon the Micro-Intel duopoly we've seen since the early 90s (and had already been doing so separate from all this anyways) because of looming risks
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AMD is not Intel and Intel problems are not AMD problems. We shall have to see if Apple can compete against AMD at the high end of the market, and if the massive installed x86/PC user and server base is willing to try something new.
I can see Apple being highly successful with consumers, but the corporate/industrial server market is something very different.
stoneinapond
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They'll smile as temps go down.
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Well, my M1 mac mini arrived, roughly two weeks from ordering to delivery.
M1 with 16 GB RAM and 512 GB hard drive.
My comparisons are subjective compared to a high spec late 2014 iMac, i7 4 GHz, 32 GB RAM, 4 GB Graphics card.
It kills it, much faster, I have existing projects on my Raid that I know roughly the render times and playback issues.
Using MOTION VFX plugin 3D tracker the difference is night and day, almost perfect playback pre-render, with the iMac it was stuttering and pausing.
Other plugins in FCPX are much faster, I had some issues connecting my Promise Pegasus Raid, I had to install a driver and interestingly drop the machines security settings allowing access to the innards of the machine. It seems Apple is taking security very seriously.
Now I know a late 2014 machine is not state of the art but the speed increase is impressive, also disconcerting is the sound or lack of it. It just sits there silent and cool. I am so used to the fan noise of the intels its a bit weird. Everythign is very snappy and immediate.
M1 with 16 GB RAM and 512 GB hard drive.
My comparisons are subjective compared to a high spec late 2014 iMac, i7 4 GHz, 32 GB RAM, 4 GB Graphics card.
It kills it, much faster, I have existing projects on my Raid that I know roughly the render times and playback issues.
Using MOTION VFX plugin 3D tracker the difference is night and day, almost perfect playback pre-render, with the iMac it was stuttering and pausing.
Other plugins in FCPX are much faster, I had some issues connecting my Promise Pegasus Raid, I had to install a driver and interestingly drop the machines security settings allowing access to the innards of the machine. It seems Apple is taking security very seriously.
Now I know a late 2014 machine is not state of the art but the speed increase is impressive, also disconcerting is the sound or lack of it. It just sits there silent and cool. I am so used to the fan noise of the intels its a bit weird. Everythign is very snappy and immediate.
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filmguy123
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Rumors say new macbook pros may ditch the touchbar. For all the hate it's gotten, I'm a bit bummed. I think it's a cool tool. Rumors also safe magsafe is coming back, and more ports. Looking forward to seeing what they do.
puredrifting
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Getting rid of MagSafe when they added USB C power was probably the single worst MBP development in many years. MagSafe is so great, it just makes so much more sense than stupid USB-C/Tbolt 3 for power.
filmguy123
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I hope there’s an option to power it either way. At a coffee shop or public space I definitely want MagSafe; on a cramped plane where I’m sitting with no foot traffic MagSafe just constantly unplugs too easy when shuffling around.
ahalpert
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Maybe it's just me but I find next to no use for the touch bar. I'd much rather have those buttons in a fixed arrangement and not shifting around on me.
Magsafe returning would be nice. But I gotta say it's nice to be able to plug in the machine on either side and it's nice to have one cable to rule them all. I can use my computer charger for my phone (android usb-c not stupid iphone lightning), my Ronin-S, my usb-c camera battery chargers...
combatentropy
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Magsafe is less important when the computer lasts 18 hours and can recharge in an hour or two.
Magsafe was great at the time, when laptops lasted just a few hours, and the alternative was the barrel plug. I lost two laptops to the barrel plug: one a slow loosening over time from minor bumps, the other a catastrophic break from one mistake. I can't believe some new laptops have a barrel plug to this day.
USB-C doesn't wear out its own jack like the barrel plug and unplugs more easily, in case it gets yanked on. Most important, I can use one charger for all of my devices.
If you really, really want a magnetic plug, you can get one.
My opinion: give me 4 USB4 jacks, and I'm good. (Also, no touchbar.)
Magsafe was great at the time, when laptops lasted just a few hours, and the alternative was the barrel plug. I lost two laptops to the barrel plug: one a slow loosening over time from minor bumps, the other a catastrophic break from one mistake. I can't believe some new laptops have a barrel plug to this day.
USB-C doesn't wear out its own jack like the barrel plug and unplugs more easily, in case it gets yanked on. Most important, I can use one charger for all of my devices.
If you really, really want a magnetic plug, you can get one.
My opinion: give me 4 USB4 jacks, and I'm good. (Also, no touchbar.)
puredrifting
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That's a cool option!
Run&Gun
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I wish Apple would go ahead and move the iPhone over to USB-C. I have to have two separate and different cables and psu's in the bedroom, because my iPhone is Lighting and my iPad Pro is USB-C. And so much other stuff that I charge on a regular basis is USB-C, like my Tentacle Sync E's, Track E's, Ronin RS2... But I still have things that are mini and micro USB, too, so it's still going to be a while before I don't have to worry about having lots of different cables around in various places.
I will say, that I don't think it's ever been a real issue with me with the MagSafe being fixed on one side. Maybe, because I mostly use one of my older PSU's with a right angle and an adapter.
filmguy123
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For magsafe - maybe the rumors are onto something, but perhaps its actually just a stock apple bundled magnetic plug as pictured there where you have the option.
For touchbar, you can lock them in place as standard F keys, so I never saw the drawback people complained about... you can have it old school too, just without the tactile feel.
For touchbar, you can lock them in place as standard F keys, so I never saw the drawback people complained about... you can have it old school too, just without the tactile feel.
Thomas Smet
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I feel the same way about the Touch Bar and another reason why I got the M1 MBA. Only Apple laptop that still has real function keys.
I view the Touch Bar as a UX fail. We get used to the position of certain keys and having a touchbar where every app can decided what those keys are creates an inconsistent user experience. Also forces users to look at the keyboard vs using it by muscle memory.
most apps can already use the function keys as they want and we are used to learning what those function keys do per app. The advantage of real function keys is we don't need to look down to hit f5. We just know where it is and if app A uses f5 for a function we know right where that is.
I also hated how the touchbar was only on laptops. If Apple wanted it to take off they needed a full-size keyboard with touchbar for the Mac Pro, iMac, iMac Pro and Mac Mini. Apple created a confusing user experience by making users get used to function keys on desktop computers and then context shift to touchbar on laptops. If the touchbar was unified it may have made a bit more sense.
To me it was just one of those things that sounded amazing on paper when an engineer came up with it but not so great in the real world. Very cool concept but also a very unnecessary concept.
There are some cool 3rd party apps that make the touchbar more useful like one that replicates the dock with all the apps so you can launch apps from the touchbar and hide the dock. Also one to swap between open apps. I think if Apple kept function keys and the touchbar more users could find better use for the touchbar for tasks like swapping between apps or hiding the dock. Let the touchbar be a cool tool vs trying to replace the function keys users want.
combatentropy
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Exactly! Muscle memory is the ultimate telekinesis. Even a touchbar for app selection would be a downgrade for someone like me who has learned the keyboard shortcuts:
| Open app: | Command Space, and start typing |
| Switch app: | Command Tab |
| Switch window: | Command ~ |
Thomas Smet
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Wonder if the Resolve beta for M1 is getting better? Just picked up a PC laptop with a 2060 because of the lack of bootcamp support on the M1. The 2060 scores 212 with Cuda and the M1 now scores 191 on the M1. Much better than before and not far behind the 2060 on a laptop. Thats pretty darn impressive. I have the base MBA that will reduce performance to cool down and only has 7 GPU cores. So the score will likely drop over time. The MBP and Mac Mini should score just about the same now as the 2060 with help of that extra core and better cooling. This was a 4k 3:1 score I tested.
Thats not bad at all for a ultra thin laptop with a GPU that barely uses any power and can do everything off a battery. I realize the 2060 is far from the high end but its still a pretty solid GPU for a PC laptop.
3D rendering in Blender was an entirely different story. 2060 Cuda and Optix rendering was between 2x and 5x faster depending on settings. Thats compared to the CPU rendering on the M1 because Blender refuses to support Metal.
I'm still continually impressed with how good the M1 Macs are. Even my base MBA with 8GB has been a beast. Best laptop I have ever owned. Even compared to this similar priced PC its a night and day difference. The PC is bulky, clunky, loud and sad battery life under load. The M1 MBA is perfect in almost every possible way minus hardcore gaming. With the Resolve improvements now it pretty much can do anything for me.
Thats not bad at all for a ultra thin laptop with a GPU that barely uses any power and can do everything off a battery. I realize the 2060 is far from the high end but its still a pretty solid GPU for a PC laptop.
3D rendering in Blender was an entirely different story. 2060 Cuda and Optix rendering was between 2x and 5x faster depending on settings. Thats compared to the CPU rendering on the M1 because Blender refuses to support Metal.
I'm still continually impressed with how good the M1 Macs are. Even my base MBA with 8GB has been a beast. Best laptop I have ever owned. Even compared to this similar priced PC its a night and day difference. The PC is bulky, clunky, loud and sad battery life under load. The M1 MBA is perfect in almost every possible way minus hardcore gaming. With the Resolve improvements now it pretty much can do anything for me.
puredrifting
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Yep. New iMacs look interesting too, I would dig a 32" iMac. They are rumored to have the M2 Silicon.
I really don't like laptops in general, they are nothing but a size and power compromise compared to a desktop or iMac.
That's why I'm still rocking my 2011 MBP, all I need it for is Word and email. Editing on a laptop is an unsatisfying experience compared to my 27" iMac.
I get it, some people HAVE to edit on the go and laptops are handy for that. But if you have a choice...